Letter: Stinespring needs to go

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The time has come for Bryan Stinespring to be fired as Offensive Coordinator at Virginia Tech.

 I know that Frank Beamer is extremely loyal to Stinespring but the facts do not lie and enough is enough. 

Last year our team averaged 303.43 yards per game which is 103 out of 119 Division I-A teams, according to the NCAA Web site. We had a worse offense than Duke, the same Duke that lost to a I-AA team this past weekend. We averaged a paltry 129.07 passing yards per game, which places us at 111 out of 119 teams. 

Now let's take a look at 2007. We averaged 330.5 yards of total offense, which puts us at 100 out of 120 teams. We did better in total passing yards per game with 196.86 yards per game, but that still ranked us in the lower 70 percent at 85 of 119 teams.

2007 was the year that we had Eddie Royal, Josh Morgan, and Justin Harper as wide receivers; all were drafted in the 2008 NFL draft. If you can't run a passing offense with 3 NFL wide receivers then you should not be an offensive coordinator.

In 2006 we averaged 295.15 yards per game which put us at 99 out of 119 teams, and 181.77 passing yards per game which ranks us 82 of 119 teams.

Our 155 total yards against Alabama this weekend put us at 106 of 118 teams which opened their season. Our 91 passing yards put us at 107 of 118 teams. We also only managed 11 first downs this past weekend.

In 2008 we were in the Red Zone (the area inside the opponent's 20 yard line) 58 times. Of those 58 times we scored 43 times or 74 percent, ranking us 105 of 119 teams. Of those 43 times we scored only 27 were touchdowns which is 46.6 percent of the time we were in the Red Zone.

Scoring touchdowns 46 percent of the time from inside the opponents 20 yard line is unacceptable. These horrible numbers do not lie, they are not my opinions they are the facts. The time has come for Bryan Stinespring to be relieved of his duties. When your team is perennially ranked in the top 25 but the total offense of that team has not been ranked higher than 99 out of 119 teams for the past 3 years then there needs to be a change. There has to be a change. Just imagine what we could accomplish if our offense even improved a little.

Judd Smith
senior, political science major

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HokieAlum | # September 10, 2009 @ 12:36 PM — Flag Comment

AGREED....Bryan Stinespring needs to go, hes bringing down the program. Even if we had an average OC, we would be a hell of alot better! FIRE BRYAN STINESPRING!!!!

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HokieAlum | # September 10, 2009 @ 12:37 PM — Flag Comment

He needs to go, if we even had a average OC our team would be better off

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Hal Burleson | # September 10, 2009 @ 12:41 PM — Flag Comment

Totally agree with "Springstein needs to go"! The Hokies have a vereran offensive line this year and should be piling up excellent offensive stats! But we're still running the same 'ole offensive schemes of the "80's. Tech never turned the corner! I notice that the teams who are rolling up hugh passing stats are rolling out their quarterbacks on the majority of their successful passing plays! Don't think that Springstein knows about rolling out your quarterback!

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Charlie | # September 10, 2009 @ 12:48 PM — Flag Comment

Finally a letter in the Collegiate times! I fully agree with Judd Smith on this one.

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Jason T | # September 10, 2009 @ 3:20 PM — Flag Comment

I'm not a Stinespring apologist, but to be fair, we did have an 11-3 season in 2007, and averaged 330 yards/game on offense. If you take away the throttling by national champion LSU, our average was 345 yards/game, and that was with Glennon at the helm for 9 starts, and an inexperienced Taylor providing backup. This still only puts us at 100 of 119 for total offense, but the argument about receivers that year is suspect, since passing that year averaged 197 yards/game, only 2 yards shy of Michael Vick's first year (when few were complaining about offense), and the highest total seen at VT since 1999. It's no mystery that the biggest surges in our total offense occur when our rushing game carries the load. Tech has never had a lights-out passing offense, either because of inadequacies at QB or in our receiving corps. I'm surprised that nobody mentions recruiting as a problem. Maybe he's limited in his play calling because of what he has to work with. I'd be curious to see what he would do if he were in charge of a high octane passing offense, but Beamer may never bring in the personnel to make that happen.

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Anonymous | # September 10, 2009 @ 4:02 PM — Flag Comment

Stinespring is a main recruiter, Jason. There's the problem.

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Adam | # September 10, 2009 @ 5:26 PM — Flag Comment

We brought in Glennon, who at the time was one of the top-rated pro-style QBs in the nation (not that that panned out) and we had 5 excellent receivers (clowney, royal, harper, morgan, hyman), all but one (hyman) of whom are seeing significant time in the NFL. If that isn't the personnel for a high octane passing offense, I don't know what is. The problem with stinespring is that he fails to use his players' talents.

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louisianahokie | # September 10, 2009 @ 9:09 PM — Flag Comment

STINESPRING MUST GO!!!!!

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joe | # September 10, 2009 @ 11:23 PM — Flag Comment

FYI guys... Show your support http://firebryanstinespring.blogspot.com/ We need to get some of the student body wearing T-shirts

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Mark | # September 11, 2009 @ 7:07 AM — Flag Comment

Recruiting for VT can't be an easy job. Let's face it, if you're a top player, do you want to freeze your ass off in Bleaksburg, VA, or would you rather spend your days in FSU, Miami, or any one of the other top football schools in the south? Never mind that high school football doesn't seem to carry the same weight in the top half of the east coast as it does in the south. If you're an offensive star, why go to VT? It's probably not solely to play for Beamer, there must be some other motivation, and that's likely going to decerase the applicant pool.

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VT Hokie Fan | # November 4, 2009 @ 2:20 PM — Flag Comment

Virginia Tech has to fire Bryan Stinespring because if they don't they will have to come up with thousands of dollars for season ticket refunds. He is the most pathetic excuse for an offensive coordinator I have ever seen. I have officially withdrawn from being a Hokie fan. Go Clemson Tigers........

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joe | # September 11, 2009 @ 8:01 AM — Flag Comment

Mark we have more talent on O right now then we ever had in the 90s when I was a student. Problem is with OCain and Stinespring are not coaching at thier pay grade. I have never seen anyone as incompetent at O coord as Stinespring has been. Yes he occasionally calls a good game but he can never seem to adjust when his plays dont work. FYI Stiny its called a screen.

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Anonymous | # September 11, 2009 @ 8:03 AM — Flag Comment

Stinespring please resign and save Beamer the embarrassment.

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Anonymous | # September 11, 2009 @ 9:43 AM — Flag Comment

I am in the process of designing a T-Shirt requesting that Stinespring resign. There are many steps that need to be taken in order to print shirts in large quantities. However, I think the Hokie Nation could send a very loud message if we all wear the same shirt. Who would be interested in purchasing a shirt? Expect to see examples to be worn around campus in the coming weeks. I only want him to resign as the O.C., but would like to keep him as an asst. coach and recruiter. I believe this past game against Alabama was Stinesprings 3rd worst performance throughout his lustrous career. If the BS holding call on 1st down, no call on the pass interference (next play) and the running into the kicker would have gone our way, we may have won. To Be Continued.....

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Anonymous | # September 11, 2009 @ 9:44 AM — Flag Comment

Continued.... However, do you want to relay on the refereeing to dictate the outcome of the game or a team with a potent offense. If our offense had played up to its potential and Stinespring prepared his team properly (had plenty of time), then the penalties within this game would not have been a factor. Alabama possessed the ball on offense for 37:02 minutes vs. Tech’s 22:58. You cannot expect the defense that spent the majority of the time on the field to stop an offense like Alabama each and every series. Our D did an excellent job and provided us ample opportunity to win. We could move the ball on offense, but we our inconsistency was much more prevalent. Stinespring needs to step down as the OC.

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Kyle Minor | # September 11, 2009 @ 10:16 AM — Flag Comment

While Stinespring has leveled some real head-scratchers in terms of playcalling in his tenure as offensive coordinator, I think the real issue behind our offensive woes comes from an inability to execute the offensive plays which are called. As Jason T points out, the 'general offensive strategy' in the past has been 'the run sets up the pass' - and, historically, when we get into situations where we have to shift to be a pass-centric team, we don't execute very well because our O-line is built for run blocking rather than pass blocking. Even the best offensive coordinator can't help tyrod show his arm off if the offensive line refuses to pick up blitzes. There is a lot of suspect coaching on the offensive side of the ball - the fact that Stinespring sits atop the heap doesn't necessarily mean that the failure belongs solely to him.

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Jason T | # September 11, 2009 @ 10:56 AM — Flag Comment

My point is that you can have 20 5-star receivers and Sean Glennon and it doesn't matter. Glennon not panning out wasn't a problem with the system; it was a problem with Glennon. My point is that we've never had a polished QB and experienced receivers at the same time. Also, Stinespring recruits by region, not by position, and while I'll grant you that his recruiting summary on rivals.com is horrible (only one of his targets has 3 stars, others are all lower - and, by the way, most are defensive players), he is one of many recruiters. The best reason I could see for firing him would be if it were part of a campaign to shed the Tech = Beamerball image and to reassure young recruits that the new offensive scheme will transform the way the Hokies play ball.

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Jason T | # September 11, 2009 @ 11:00 AM — Flag Comment

Of course, if getting rid of him seems to be the only way, we could always preempt Beamer and follow FSU's Jeff Bowden model: have athletic boosters buy out his contract and send him packing.

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Anonymous | # September 11, 2009 @ 2:29 PM — Flag Comment

Kyle, theres a point where you can no longer point to execution. The guy has been at the helm for 8 seasons. And every season we hear the execution mistake excuse. Hes the head of the O if he can not coach his players to excute then we need to find someone that will. I personally dont think thats the case. He plainly can not adjust his game after his O is stopped.

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HokieFan07 | # September 11, 2009 @ 6:46 PM — Flag Comment

Here are our national rankings (with conference rankings in parenthesis) in total offense over the course of Stinespring's tenure as OC: 2002 #64 (#5 BE) 2003 #38 (#3 BE) 2004 #65 (#4 ACC) 2005 #57 (#4 ACC) 2006 #99 (#9 ACC) 2007 #100 (#8 ACC) 2008 #103 (#11 ACC) Are those the numbers of a man who's doing a good job? Can we expect to compete for a national championship, which is a stated goal of the program, with these kinds of results?

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HokieDokie | # September 11, 2009 @ 7:31 PM — Flag Comment

Can we change the law to make it legal to clone Bud Foster?

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boom boom bam | # September 12, 2009 @ 12:22 AM — Flag Comment

I believe someone was mentioning Tyrod's inability to pass due to O line built to run block.. you gotta be kidding me? The easiest way to counter blitz is screen, Stiney does not call those as if they do not exist in his little world. His play book seems to have 2 pages, and thats it, noo boot legs, not moving the pocket not screens etc. He only seems to know deep ball on third and forever, and run through the middle. Seriously we need him off the OC chair.

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Anonymous | # September 12, 2009 @ 10:15 PM — Flag Comment

well maybe the OC heard you guys and is looking to keep his job

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Anonymous | # September 14, 2009 @ 12:59 AM — Flag Comment

Yes because Marshall is such a tough opponent with a great D. We are probably the most talented we have ever been at RB. Doesnt take a genius to run his horses against a inferior opponent. There really wasnt any creativity going on there. I am betting it will be a different story against NEB

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VTAlum07 | # September 14, 2009 @ 10:42 AM — Flag Comment

Stinespring needs to go! Period. If Beamer doesn't have the (male reproductive organs) to do it himself, then he needs to go too for failure to execute his duties as head coach. We're done waiting. We're tired of being embarrassed year after year, game after game. This Hokie will not spend one dime on football until Stinespring is removed from his position as offensive coordinator. My protest may not mean much in the big scheme of things, but it's the principle. They only understand money, so we need to attack them where it hurts the most: their wallets.

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Chris | # September 16, 2009 @ 12:57 PM — Flag Comment

Despite what happened against Marshall, Stinespring has to go. It was MARSHALL, not a top tier school. He has been the weak link (along with Mike O'Cain) in the coaching staff for many years now and his time is up. If Beamer doesn't have the brass to fire his golf buddy then maybe the boosters need to take a look at coach who does. We have the talent to get to the next level, but right now, I we don't have the coaching staff to do it..

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Anonymous | # September 20, 2009 @ 12:20 AM — Flag Comment

This game with Nebraska proves that something needs to be changed. We barely won and we could barely move the ball most of the game. If it wasn't for a fantastic defense and enthusiastic crowd we would have our asses kicked by a lower ranked team.

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Charlie | # September 20, 2009 @ 3:10 AM — Flag Comment

Wow what a game, the thing is we should have lost that game and we were gonna lose that game because of the offense. I give credit to TT on the last few plays however for pulling the win. Stinespring needs to go, this game proves it out of all. "But at this moment, only one number mattered to quarterback Tyrod Taylor: five. He calls the plays in these final-minutes situations, and Stinespring gives him five plays to use. After a too-many-men penalty on Nebraska and 1-yard sack, Taylor huddled with the offense for second down and 6 at Tech's 16. He picked a play with one deep route. It belonged to Danny Coale." http://www2.timesdispatch.com/rtd/sports/college/college_football/article/VTFB20_20090919-223206/294246/ What does that show? Maybe we should let our players call the plays for now on!

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Lisa | # September 20, 2009 @ 11:45 AM — Flag Comment

Stinespring must go! Look at what Eddie Royal and others have done for the NFL, even their first season! We waste our talent. Eventually, we will stop getting the talent because they know they will be wasted. This is ridiculous. Our offense stinks not because of lack of talent but, lack of good play calls. Stiney needs to quit throwing Tyrod under the bus, and take a look at himself. Tyrod is an athlete and when he needed a win and was allowed to make the calls, he came out with a win. God bless our defense and Bud Foster but, we have to stop relying on them to save us week in and week out!

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rhokies | # September 20, 2009 @ 10:58 PM — Flag Comment

It's not play calling that's the problem...it's the entire lack of an Offensive Strategy. Stinespring is way over his head. I think the middle school could use an assitant coach...could he work over there and leave us alone...if he would just quit...and we wouldn't even need to replace him...just let the defense play both ways...they are now anything it seems...

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Anonymous | # September 21, 2009 @ 7:58 AM — Flag Comment

Wow as I predicted in my previous post. Playing Neb would be a different story. Our O lack a lot of execution but we were still stuck with a lot plays that made me want to bang my head. Like the first play of the game Roberts has just run 60 yds. So you decide to run the reverse with a winded player. Then he goes to play action of first down without establishing the run. Then he gives up the run in the 2nd half.

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Ken | # September 21, 2009 @ 5:20 PM — Flag Comment

Charlie said exactly what I noted - when TT was free to call his own plays, we dominated. When Steinspring handed them down, we sucked. What more evidence do we need, besides the barely 200yd game?

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