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Virginia Tech officials are closely watching as proposed changes could end a federal prohibition on gays openly serving in the armed forces as well as the on-campus Reserve Officer Training Corps programs offered by the corps of cadets.

In his State of the Union address on Jan. 27, President Barack Obama announced a plan that would end the “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” policy, calling it a law “that denies gay Americans the right to serve the country they love because of who they are.”

The policy, enacted by President Bill Clinton in 1993, allowed for gay soldiers to serve with strict rules barring “homosexual conduct.” As a part of the policy, those entering the armed forces would not be asked about their sexuality.

While the proposed policy change has sparked much debate in Washington D.C., Tech ROTC and corps of cadets officials are keeping their eyes on any change to the policy.

“We’re watching this like everybody else is,” said captain Daniel Forney, commanding officer of Tech’s Naval ROTC program.

Maj. Carrie Cox, executive officer with Tech’s Corps of Cadets, noted that while ROTC actions fell under the federal “don’t ask, don’t tell” policies, the civilian track of the corps falls under Tech’s Principles of Community, which prohibit discrimination based on sexual orientation.

About 100 students are in the civilian track program, some who are ineligible for ROTC service for various reasons, including medical issues. Cox said that the topic of gay students serving in the corps of cadets is a “non-issue.”

“It’s not something that’s been brought up,” Cox said.

Members of the Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender Alliance were vocal in their support of a change to the “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy.

“It was an, ‘It’s about time’ type of thing,” said Aimee Kanode, a senior humanities, science, and environment major and serving as president of the LGBTA. “If not now, when?”

Kanode said that while a change in policy would not be “seamless,” it was important to support those who “want to defend the country.”

“Whoever wants to fight should be able to fight,” Kanode said.

Forney noted that while he didn’t expect a backlash from a change to the policy, military cohesiveness is a very important topic to consider in the debate.

“Being in the military, it’s like a team sport,” Forney said. Forney said that his program would follow the laws passed down from the federal government.

“In the Navy, we work for the civilian government, and we execute its policies,” Forney said. “If there were a policy change, I would say it would work out.”

Maj. Gen. Jerrold Allen, commandant of cadets, said his office worked to maintain respect among cadets.

“We welcome everybody to the corps of cadets, and we work hard so that we treat all with dignity and respect,” Allen said in a statement to the Collegiate Times.

The changes proposed by Obama have received approval from several prominent figures within the defense community in the past week, including Adm. Mike Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, along with Defense Secretary Robert Gates. Colin Powell, who opposed the inclusion of gay soldiers as chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff in the Clinton administration, said he supported the policy change.

“In the almost 17 years since the ‘don’t ask, don’t tell’ legislation was passed, attitudes and circumstances have changed,” Powell said in a statement.

Those who oppose the change propose it could negatively impact unit cohesiveness. Sen. John McCain called the proposed change to the policy “another challenge to our military at a time of already tremendous stress and strain.”

“Numerous military leaders tell me that ‘don’t ask, don’t tell’ is working,” McCain said to the Senate Armed Services Committee on Feb. 2, “and that we should not change it now. I agree.”





A version of this article appeared in the Feb 12 issue of the Collegiate Times.

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lynnelevi | # February 11, 2010 @ 11:34 PM — Flag Comment

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hokiemom | # February 14, 2010 @ 7:19 PM — Flag Comment

I am so torn about this whole issue. I am a mom, I have a son that would like to go into the military after he graduates from Tech , I also have a step daughter who is a lesbian. If I had to pick which one would be the greater warrior it would be my step daughter...however, I have doubts about the 'open~ness'. I guess our President is too young to remember "Mash" and the openly gay solider who was desperately trying to go home from Vietnam (of course that was during a time of war when the draft was enacted)..now what if we have a draft...is Perez Hilton or Ross the Intern going to show up in heels? I realize that is a stereotype which I hate to mention but come on, why does it need to made public what someones preference is. I bet they don't ask when you apply to Motorola or Exxon/Mobil. They just look at what type of person you are and whether or not you are qualified for the job. That is the private sectors Don't Ask Don't Tell. My point is it is no ones business. I think the system is find the way it is. Sorry for babbling.

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anon | # February 15, 2010 @ 6:55 PM — Flag Comment

Are you drunk?

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J. Driessnack | # February 17, 2010 @ 11:51 AM — Flag Comment

I would be ashamed to have you as a mother.

How dare you blanket all gay men as cross dressers! It is offensive and disgusting.

HETEROSEXUALS make their preference clear all the time, especially when men sexually harass women in military units. HETEROSEXUALS go out of their way to make their identities apparent, especially with policies barring disparate sexualities from serving in the military.

You need to reevaluate yourself and I feel sorry for your step daughter. I hope she doesn't read your loathsome comment.

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hokiemom | # February 23, 2010 @ 7:53 PM — Flag Comment

Driess: Wow, such a mouth. For your information I would be ashamed to have you as a child. By the tone you are expressing it seems your parents feel the same way.

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hokie_1997 | # February 15, 2010 @ 10:33 PM — Flag Comment

As an alumnus and military vet I can speak from experience that repealing DA/DT will undoubtedly hinder military effectiveness.

We had one homosexual in our squadron who was absolutely worthless at his job made everyone around him extremely uncomfortable.

Call it homophobia if you want -- but the dems don't seem to realize that the military isn't some esoteric sociological project. It's an organization designed to kill people and break things.

Allowing gays to serve openly will destroy the spirit of trust which is essential in a small combat unit. I can't even imagine having to serve in a fire-team (4 soldiers) in which two of the men are sleeping together.

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Anonymous | # February 16, 2010 @ 5:50 PM — Flag Comment

uncomfortable?? That's so terrible. How ever did you manage to get by?

I mean NEVER MIND the fact that a "few" countries (Argentina, Australia, Austria, Bermuda, Brazil, Canada, Czech Republic, Denmark, Esotonia, Finland, France, Germany, Ireland, Israel, Italy, Lithuania, Luxembourg, The Netherlands, New Zealond, Norway, Peru, Phillipines, Romania, Russia, Slovenia, South Africa, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, United Kingdom, Uruguay) already allow homosexuals to serve openly without any problems. Your personal experience about one gay soldier who didn't do his job right clearly trumps all of that.

Furthermore, if they repeal DATA, do you *really* think they'll put two lovers in the same unit?

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J. Driessnack | # February 17, 2010 @ 12:04 PM — Flag Comment

WOW, ONE WHOLE HOMOSEXUAL?! Oh my...talk about a legitimate testing sample.

They said the same about women and black people...worthless.

I think bigots are worthless in the military. And maybe Americans just don't have the balls to handle differences since clearly so many other countries manage just fine.

I come from a family of OFFICERS and none of them seem to be frightened at the notion of openly gay people.

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hokie_1997 | # February 17, 2010 @ 8:16 AM — Flag Comment

Annonymous. I'm guessing you never served in the military. If you did, you'd know that being comfortable with a squadmate (being able to depend on them in a combat without a moments hesitation) is all important in a combat unit.

As to legislating if two homosexual companions can serve together: do you honestly think the military has time to see who likes who when they're assigning folks to units? This strikes me as a huge adminstrative burden -- and endemic of the democrats view of the military as a big sociological experiment, as opposed to a fighting organization.

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hokie_1997 | # February 26, 2010 @ 7:41 AM — Flag Comment

J. Dressnick --

If you don't believe me, why don't you read what the Commandant of the Marine Corps said before the Senate yesterday (2/25/10)?

"My personal opinion is that unless we can strip away the emotion, agenda and politics and ask [whether] we somehow enhance the war-fighting of the United States Marine Corps by allowing homosexuals to openly serve, then we haven't addressed it from the correct perspective," Conway said."

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