Case looming over ‘Hokie’ usage

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Virginia Tech is preparing legal action against local real estate firm Hokie Real Estate for using the word “Hokie” without permission.

Tech spokesman Larry Hincker said the university has stopped allowing retail establishments to use “Hokie” in their names.

“The thing about a trademark is that you’ve got to control it to keep it,” Hincker said.

While other business use “Hokie” in their names, including Hokie Hair, Hokie Spokes and Hokie House, their naming rights have been grandfathered into the policy with permission from Tech.

“(Tech has) been using Hokie for more than a century,” Hincker said. “It was created by us and has no meaning outside of the university.”

Hokie Real Estate owner John Wilburn is a Tech alumnus, but the university made it clear it’s not his identification as a Hokie that’s the problem.

“John Wilburn clearly made a commercial business decision to use the name,” said John Thomas, an attorney speaking on behalf of the university. “He didn’t call it Wilburn Real Estate and then say he’s a Hokie.”

Wilburn’s attorney said the use of the name doesn’t affect Tech because it is in a different business.

“Our client is a real estate broker, he provides real estate broker services,” said Keith Finch, an attorney representing Wilburn. “They don’t state in their claim that they use it for that purpose.”

The disagreement comes from whether Tech uses the Hokie name for real estate, which the university claims it does.

Finch said consumers “are not likely at all to be confused that Hokie Real Estate is associated with the university.”

Finch said first-time home buyers are likely to do research before choosing a broker, and all of Wilburn’s signs contain a disclaimer that he is not associated with the university.

“There is the risk that the public will assume that Hokie Real Estate has affiliation or authorization from Virginia Tech,” Thomas said.

Thomas noted Tech’s affiliation to the Hokie Homes project.

Started in 2005, Hokie Homes was created to license the unique “Collegiate Gothic” look of Tech in architectural plans for residential homes. The project is a collaborative project between Tech and architectural group Balzer & Associates, Inc.

Thomas said the Hokie Real Estate name could cause confusion for consumers looking for Hokie Homes.

“People will want that Hokie Home that will inspire memories of VT,” Thomas said. “And they will go to Hokie Real Estate.”

Wilburn’s attorneys claim this isn’t the case.

“They don’t state that they actually sold any of those (Hokie Home) plans,” Finch said, adding had Tech sold any, it would have claimed it in the complaint.

Thomas disagrees with this claim.

“Virginia Tech hasn’t given up on the project and has an ongoing dialog with the architects,” Thomas said.

Wiburn’s attorney also contested Tech’s right to control the trademark.

“The main thing is Hokie Real Estate is on Main Street, between Hokie Hair across the street and Hokie Spokes and Hokie House down the street,” Finch said.

Finch said that the university fails to monitor and enforce the quality of the organizations that use the name.

“That’s what we would call a naked license,” Finch said. “If they don’t police the trademark, they lose the right to control it,” Finch said.

Thomas said Tech’s lawsuit is an act of policing their trademark.

“Virginia Tech does police their marks and haven’t lost their rights,” Thomas said.

While Thomas said Tech will pursue legal action against Hokie Real Estate, he declined to put a timetable on any legal action Tech would take.

A version of this article appeared in the Nov 11 issue of the Collegiate Times.

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Anon | # November 11, 2010 @ 12:35 AM — Flag Comment

I understand the trademark stuff but something I don't get is why the other businesses were "grandfathered in". What does that mean? Why can't this business be "grandfathered in"? It's right across the street. If it's money VT wants, has he offered to pay something to use the trademark?

The reason that customers will be confused of it being affiliated to the university is bogus. I don't think most customers are that stupid especially with a disclaimer. The real reason must be that VT wants to get into the real estate business using "Hokie Homes"...really VT?

Anyway, why doesn't this guy just drop it and choose a different name. Is this battle really worth it? It can ultimately kill his business if he loses.

I really think the name "Hokie" is starting to be overused by businesses despite being in Blacksburg, come up with something more original/creative.

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Grandfather | # November 11, 2010 @ 8:12 AM — Flag Comment

Grandfathered in means that the businesses were there before they decided to make Hokie a legal trademark...it has nothing to do with 'because its local we'll just give it to them.' Look up definitions before putting your opinion online, less chance for ridicule.

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Anonymous | # November 11, 2010 @ 3:10 PM — Flag Comment

Let's try being informative instead of, as you note, ridiculing.

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M. | # November 11, 2010 @ 11:43 AM — Flag Comment

Why target Hokie Real Estate over Hokie Hair, Hokie Spokes and Hokie House?

It's called "deep pockets."

Virginia Tech: now offering a culture of unnecessary, hostile litigation against former students. What a great angle on recruiting!

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Anonymous | # November 11, 2010 @ 2:09 PM — Flag Comment

The article says they were grandfathered in, meaning they were using it (with permission) before Tech decided to stop giving permission.

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Anonymous | # November 19, 2010 @ 1:12 PM — Flag Comment

hey, hey, hey.....cool your jets

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Alum | # November 11, 2010 @ 10:57 AM — Flag Comment

This guy is a moron...I hope he doesn't plan on taking on VT in a legal battle...he might as well save himself a lot of time and money and rename his business.

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Anonymous | # November 11, 2010 @ 3:11 PM — Flag Comment

It may very well be great for business. A lot of locals are hearing about his company right now, and for instance, I wouldn't have known about it if it weren't for this legal battle.

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Anonymous | # November 11, 2010 @ 3:31 PM — Flag Comment

No I wouldn't call him a moron. It appears that he is an alumni who is very proud to have received his education at VT and to be a part of the HOKIE NATION. This is "HOKIE" country everything is either Maroon & Orange with images of HOKIE Bird or VT's on everything. Maybe the ones from VT that make these decisions need to think about going to some of the craft fairs, fall festivals, etc and look at the VT items for sale as MANY are homemade with VT, the Hokie Bird & HOKIES on the items. Are they trying to make an example of Mr. Wilburn...I don't think it looks good for them to continue this with an alumni who for all intent and purposes wants to use what he learned while studying at VT to earn his living.

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Anonymous | # November 11, 2010 @ 3:42 PM — Flag Comment

however proud he is to be a hokie doesnt entitle him to use the name "hokie" in the title of his businesses name. Tech is legally obligated to protect its trademark less they lose it. I see no issue with the suit against him and he should have moved on once he was notified

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Anonymous | # November 12, 2010 @ 3:29 PM — Flag Comment

Many different opinions on this it seems. Maybe when all is said and done all parties involved will have come to some sort of agreement,I hope so anyway.

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Iveson | # March 28, 2013 @ 9:41 AM — Flag Comment

Study to write himself, the post from yet another source Iveson http://www.newsday.co.zw/2012/11/19/ecstasy-for-hwange-gunners-agony/

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