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Robert Hastings is a UFO researcher and lecturer who wrote the book “UFOs and Nukes: Extraordinary Encounters at Nuclear Weapons Sites.” What sets Hastings aside from other alien enthusiasts is his focus on nuclear weapons cases. In September 2010, he hosted a press conference on the subject, which was live streamed on CNN.
Hastings shared his views with the Virginia Tech community last night in the Owens Banquet Hall. The Collegiate Times met with him before his lecture to ask him about his theories, as well as the connections he sees between UFOs and nuclear weapons.
Collegiate Times:
How did you become interested in UFOs?
Robert Hastings:
My father was career Air Force, and in 1967, he was stationed at Malmstrom Air Force base in Montana, which was a nuclear missile base. He was aware of UFO activity at some of the (intercontinental ballistic missile) sites and objects being tracked on radar. It was clear that the UFOs were maneuvering near and even hovering above some of the underground nuclear missile silos. I was aware in a very peripheral way of what had gone on at the time.
Coincidentally, I had a job at the air traffic controller tower three nights a week as a janitor (as) a junior in high school. In March of ’67, I was present when the (Federal Aviation Administration) controllers who worked at the tower covered up the presence of five unidentified aerial objects being tracked. I brought that fact to my father’s attention. Unbeknownst to me, he made inquiries where he worked, which was called (Semi-Automatic Ground Environment). It was part of the Air Force’s radar system. They confirmed the presence of these unknown objects.
CT:
Can you explain the connection between UFOs and nuclear weapons?
Hastings:
Again, if one knows anything about the history of the Cold War era, the planet was basically on the edge of its seat, anticipating a nuclear exchange between the United States and the former Soviet Union at any given moment. We continually engaged in conveyed threats in using nuclear weapons against another. If there had been a full-scale nuclear exchange between the two superpowers, there would have been a great deal of collateral damage, including massive disruption of the Earth’s environmental system.
All of these very monumental developments have come to the notice of outside observers. We know about the collapse of the Soviet Union through documents that had been declassified in Russia. The Soviets had the same type of UFO activity at their nuclear weapon sites, just as the documents from our own government confirm.
This is not a question of some super-secret weapon that the Americans are using against the Russians and vice-versa. But quite clearly, the UFOs are from an outside third party of very sophisticated technological capabilities.
My sources have said, on a number of occasions, when a UFO hovered over our missiles, the missiles malfunctioned. I have multiple witnesses over the years that have confirmed that incident.
We know from declassified Soviet documents that similar incidents happened over there. This is quite clearly dramatic information I think is worth to be public information.
CT:
Where and how did you get your source information?
A version of this article appeared in the Nov 17 issue of the Collegiate Times.
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Super awesome work. Chapeau, Mr Hastings!
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To elaborate on what was written in this article:
Declassified U.S. government documents confirm that UFOs have repeatedly visited nuclear weapons sites--laboratories, plutonium production plants, bomb test ranges, missile warhead storage depots, ICBM launch silos--as early as December 1948.
Furthermore, KGB and Ministry of Defense documents released or leaked following the collapse of the U.S.S.R. verify that the Soviets also experienced such incursions at their nuclear facilities during the Cold War era.
In short, someone or something operating highly superior aerial craft has been monitoring and sometimes disrupting the functionality of American and Russian nuclear weapons for decades.
Over the past 38 years I have interviewed nearly 130 U.S. military veterans, most of whom were eyewitnesses to one or more UFO incursions at ICBM sites or Weapons Storage Areas (WSAs). Seven of those individuals spoke at my September 27, 2010 press conference in Washington D.C., which CNN streamed live.
The full-length video of the event is at:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jUU4Z8QdHI
An article containing the veterans' affidavits as well as a small cross-section of nukes-related documents:
http://www.ufohastings.com/articles/the-ufos-nukes-connection-press-conference
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My personal view is that our government would, basically, have to confess to lying to the nation for the last 70 years in order to come clean. This isn't going to happen. The subject will remain hidden because... well, politicians lie regularly already and because of the sheer scale of this particular one.
Oh, and if I may... the word 'craft', like the words 'cattle' and 'sheep', suits singular or plural. No 's' required :)
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Where are the published interviews? Where are "thousands of declassified documents" that supposedly confirm UFO activity? Why am I even asking these questions?
What a loon. Hope no one takes him seriously.
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Why are the Anonymous contributors always such poor readers?
Some of the documents are at the link above (which, of course, you didn't pursue) as are the affidavits of the retired USAF missile personnel who participated in my press conference (also linked). Many more interviews--tape recorded and approved by the ex-military sources for accuracy--appear in the articles at my website, www.ufohastings.com. A great many more appear in my book.
Go to the Black Vault website for easy access to hundreds of the declassified documents. Many other sites have them as well.
Or you could google Admiral Hillenkoetter's Feb. 28, 1960 interview with the NY Times. He was the first CIA director who told the paper that the Air Force had "silenced its personnel" regarding UFOs.
The data is out there, anonymous. Do your homework.
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Everything you have said is true. Hope more of these "anonymous" folks stop posting tripe and understand these things are real and they are trying to tell us something.
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Hasting's investigation, and the broader subject of government suppression of information regarding visitations, are among the most critical issues to Americans today, and yet they are ignored or ridiculed by the mainstream and secondary media.
The Collegiate Times and the author of this article should be commended for covering this story.
As the comments show, the only people denying this phenomenon are people who have not studied the evidence and those with an agenda of suppression.
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According to Benjamin Creme, author of "The Gathering of the Forces of Light: the spiritual mission of UFO's", our space brothers, coming mostly from Venus and Mars, and Jupiter, have aided us immeasurably by "mopping up" as much of our excess nuclear radiation as they may. Were it not for them, Creme says,
Earth would be uninhabitable by now. The reason why the nuclear facilities shut down when they are near has to do with "swamping" due to electromagnetic fields around the ships. You are right, according to Creme's information, we are on the precipice of self-destruction and the Space Brothers, along with history's greatest teachers, and their Leader, are here to show humanity how to save itself. See: share-international.org
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Please don't associate my work with Benjamin Creme's ridiculous claims. I don't buy one word of what you have written. Betsy. Just read the declassified documents and witness affidavits. Separate the signal from the noise, please.
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Not associating your work with Creme's at all, sir. Just commenting from another perspective. Is that not OK?
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Is it not ridiculous to think that aliens look exactly like human beings do? Is it not ridiculous that aliens would specifically fly across the galaxy to personally look at something that they can clearly send robots to detect? Also, since when do races in the milky way galaxy "wander into hangars" and get caught by a primitive non-consequential race of life? All of your claims are ridiculous. In addition, your speculation that aliens showed up to "warn us" about using nuclear weapons is literally a slap to the face. What would that headline look like, "Aliens suddenly get involved in the affairs of primitive race on the opposite side of galaxy." I'm honestly not interested in the evidence you claim you have because of how absurd it is. Can we honestly justify labeling a race millenia ahead of us with human emotion?
Alien 1: "Hey man whats up?"
Alien 2: "NM man, I think I'm gonna cruise around the galaxy..."
Alien 1: "Well you know some races out there are hostile... dont get caught and end up in a lab like your grandfather..."
Hopefully one day you and your friends who share your opinion will wake up and understand that if an alien race ever did visit Earth and NOT destroy us, there is literally no chance they would ever "get caught" by us. Furthermore, I sincerely doubt that a race with the technology to defy physics (come on... a spinning disc?) would actually care at all about us.
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that comment respectfully directed towards Mr. Hastings.
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Thank you, Robert! I applaud you for monitoring and responding to the idiotic comments that are made after your articles and/or interviews.
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Alien Father: "do NOT go to Earth and get caught."
Alien Son: "YOU DONT CONTROL ME DAD"
Alien Father: "Well if you DO go to Earth make sure you bring a modern Alien weapon of ANY KIND!"
Alien Son: "NO, DAD! NO! IM GOING WITHOUT A WEAPON!"
And so an alien wandered into one of our hangars... where we kept it a secret from everyone (because clearly the alien planet would not mind if we took one of their members captive)
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You're all idiots.
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Idiots eh? So CNN - not some 3rd tier alternative news network with an audience of 2.5 people world wide, but *CNN* - is a big idiot for streaming the press conference with all those "idiots" (including former high ranking military officials, who obviously must have been "idiots" in order to end up in those high ranking positions in the first place right?)
And of course, career military people are exactly the types of attention seeking lunatics that would "say anything" just to get in front of the media and cause controversy - right? I mean, just because they are heeled in the no-nonsense, nuts and bolts, conservative culture of the U.S. military, broken down and "re-programmed" in boot camp or officer training to carry out orders and comply with whatever their superiors tell them, surely doesn't guarantee that underneath all that, these are not just class-A certifiable "new age" loons - obviously that's what they are, right?
Or, wait a second - maybe you're the idiot?
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Idiots eh? So CNN - not some 3rd tier alternative news network with an audience of 2.5 people world wide, but *CNN* - is a big idiot for streaming the press conference with all those "idiots" (including former high ranking military officials, who obviously must have been "idiots" in order to end up in those high ranking positions in the first place right?)
And of course, career military people are exactly the types of attention seeking lunatics that would "say anything" just to get in front of the media and cause controversy - right? I mean, just because they are heeled in the no-nonsense, nuts and bolts, conservative culture of the U.S. military, broken down and "re-programmed" in boot camp or officer training to carry out orders and comply with whatever their superiors tell them, surely doesn't guarantee that underneath all that, these are not just class-A certifiable "new age" loons - obviously that's what they are, right?
Or, wait a second - maybe you're the idiot?
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Idiots eh? So CNN - not some 3rd tier alternative news network with an audience of 2.5 people world wide, but *CNN* - is a big idiot for streaming the press conference with all those "idiots" (including former high ranking military officials, who obviously must have been "idiots" in order to end up in those high ranking positions in the first place right?)
And of course, career military people are exactly the types of attention seeking lunatics that would "say anything" just to get in front of the media and cause controversy - right? I mean, just because they are heeled in the no-nonsense, nuts and bolts, conservative culture of the U.S. military, broken down and "re-programmed" in boot camp or officer training to carry out orders and comply with whatever their superiors tell them, surely doesn't guarantee that underneath all that, these are not just class-A certifiable "new age" loons - obviously that's what they are, right?
Or, wait a second - maybe you're the idiot?
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youre the idiot that triple posted something LOL
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The aliens have been concerned about nuclear weapons and their ability to destroy the planet for a long time now. They have been sending messages to the US military warning about this. Periodically they disable US nuclear missiles as part of this warning. The US military/intelligence community does not want the truth about advanced aliens visiting from outer space to be revealed, since that would undermine US military and economic dominance of the world. This elaborate coverup has been going on for almost 60 years. See ufocoverup.org for more info
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Very interesting, I've been reading about the UFO phenomenon since I was a kid in the late 90's. What I've always wondered is if maybe sometime in the next 25 to 50 years, will the government come out and basically say UFO's are real and declassify everything they've covered up, or will some UFO event or activity with lots of witnesses compel them to? I wonder if in the next few decades if either:
1. UFO's will be commonly known to be fact vs. fiction and maybe even communicate with these E.T."s (if that's what they are)
2. UFO's are really some super-secret U.S. technology program. Ever been out to Area-51? Who knows what they do out there. If it's so locked up and guarded, the technology must be pretty special.
Btw, I'm not an idiot, just open minded.
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Anon, good points.
One thing though: if you read even just the "official" history of UFO's, confining yourself to nothing but the U.S. Air Force studies (the Condon Report, Grudge documents, the Bluebook Special Reports, esp.#14, etc...), I think it becomes VERY difficult to seriously entertain the hypothesis that the strongest UFO cases are simply the products of a "super-secret U.S. technology program."
Don't get me wrong. I have no doubt that SOME UFO sightings are explained by secret military aircraft. But I also have no doubt that, in the mid to late 1940's, no humans were constructing disc-shaped flying machines (with no airfoils, or visible propulsion), that could both hover and accelerate to thousands of miles-per-hour in a second. (As confirmed by military radars, and human eyeballs, simultaneously.)
To me, it just seems that aviation technology, space-flight technology, and actually most all technologies would be vastly different right now had we possessed such capabilities back then.
A totally unrelated point, but... I wonder if anyone at Virginia Tech captured Mr. Hastings' talk on video? It would be great to see it on youtube or something. (Assuming Mr. Hastings wouldn't have a problem with that.)
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I'm quite satisfied that Robert Hastings is a liar and a fraud who shouldn't be trusted in regard to anything, including what he had for breakfast this morning. As soon as you start questioning his witnesses, you find out almost immediately that they are either not willing to establish the claims that Hastings has made for them, or have nothing to say that qualifies as valid evidence. Hastings, aware finally that his witnesses can be tracked down and reinterviewed, is now using anonymous witnesses to validate his claims. He's a fraud and a petty con-man trying to sell an idea and nothing more.
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If you like, I can send you copies of multiple emails from Hastings that contain a number of absolute and easily proven lies. His conduct on and off the internet has been dishonest, highly offensive, and full of outright lies. He refuses point blank to answer any detailed questions in regard to his claims, part of the reason being the very well substantiated fact that his own witnesses in regard to those claims have, on occasion, accused him of lying, taking statements out of context, and refusing entirely to assert the claims of those witnesses, who have insisted repeatedly that no UFO was involved in that incident, no UFO was sighted, no UFO was reported, no UFO was investigated, and no UFO was ever thought to be involved by anyone in the chain of command. Even his methods for documenting the transcripts of telephone interviews have shown a deceptive streak, allowing him to hide the actual claims of such witnesses (see http://www.realityuncovered.net/blog/2011/08/strategic-editing/).
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When his own witnesses consider him a fraud, something is going on, and it has nothing at all to do with honesty on his part. He's even gone so far as to invent a number of medical publications and articles establishing a fictional association between epilepsy and violent mania for no other purpose then to raise the issue of credibility in reference to those who have established claims contrary to his own, and he did so without once refuting, explaining, accounting for, or, in some cases, even acknowledging the evidence presented. A man who fails to defend himself or his claims, merely attacking the credibility of his critics with disgusting insinuations and personal insults is not a man who can defend his assertions honestly. The fact that he refuses to even try is not necessarily a point in his favor.
Robert Hastings is a liar and a fraud, charges that have been proven ... repeatedly.
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His promotion of Robert Salas' alleged experiences at Echo Flight and Oscar Flight in March 1967 as UFO related incidents are part of his habitual reliance on lies and subterfuge. There were no UFOs involved at Echo Flight at all, and the incident at Oscar Flight never even happened, and it doesn't matter one whit what Salas and Hastings claim, because those claims are easily been proven lies. Both the commander and the deputy commander at Echo Flight on March 16, 1967 have repeatedly come forward to state that UFOs were not involved. They also insist, as do many dozens of other witnesses who were at Malmstrom AFB on the dates in question, that the incident at Oscar Flight never even occurred; in fact, there is no record anywhere suggesting that such an incident ever took place, and there has never been an attempt to declare such an incident until Robert Salas did so nearly forty years later.
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I would recommend that if you are truly interested in understanding something about Salas' or Hastings' credibility, you go to the following URLs, where you can download at no cost a book and supporting articles discussing in some detail exactly how far they can be trusted. Simply go to http://www.scribd.com and search for "Americans, Credulous" and "Echo Flights of Fantasy" by James Carlson. They are all free.
I would also recommend that you examine the numerous interviews and articles at the Reality Uncovered website -- many of the top articles referenced discuss the events at Echo Flight in March 1967, and include interviews with both the commander and the deputy commander at Echo Flight on March 16, 1967 when the missiles were taken offline by an electronic noise pulse, an incident that was thoroughly investigated and very well documented, contrary to what Hastings and Salas have always insisted.
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It's a sad thing indeed when the resources that so many consider to be so credible have refused to examine 90% of the evidence available, including over 80 pages of FOIA documentation, the statements repeatedly issued by the only actual witnesses at Echo Flight, the statements originating with Salas' own crew commander during the alleged incident at Oscar Flight, and the statements of literally dozens of ex-missileers regarding the supposed event at Oscar Flight, including absolute and verified proof that no equipment failures occurred anywhere on Malmstrom AFB during the same period of the Oscar Flight failures insisted upon by both Salas and Hastings.
A lot information regarding this incident can also be found at the Reality Uncovered forum, in particular the Echo Flight Incident thread.
Tim Hebert, an ex-USAF missileer himself, has also written some enlightening articles regarding the case on his blog "Did it Really Happen?" Search for it on Google.
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Dr. David Clarke, for many years an accepted expert regarding the British investigations of the UFO phenomenon, has also discussed this case in the context of the "UFO and Nukes" connection asserted by author Robert Hastings. You can read his article on the subject in an article entitled "Flat Earth Nukes". Again, search with Google.
There is no doubt that Hastings and Salas created this case for their own benefit. There were no UFOs involved -- it is a lie, and nothing more. This doesn't entirely negate their arguments in relation to these two events. If the witnesses both men have promoted -- Col. Walt Figel and Frederick Meiwald -- actually told them what Hastings and Salas say they told them, it should be very easy to simply ask them to do so again, except write it down in a statement instead of using transcripts of telephone calls that both men have already and repeatedly refuted. This is a standard confirmatory process that Robert Hastings in particular has been extremely willing to establish with other witnesses. So why does he refuse to even discuss the matter where the Echo Flight witnesses are concerned? A written statement of the events that occurred and a willingness to respond to clarifying questions afterward is a time-honored test of one's confirmation of an incident. It's almost as if Hastings is afraid that a written statement will call atention to his flaws as an honest investigator of UFO phenomena.
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These men are still alive, and I have already ascertained that they are willing to respond to enquiry regarding the events they participated in. I have, in fact, provided exactly that in regard to these silly UFO assertions. Given these points, why have Robert Salas and Robert Hastings refused to obtain from them a single, cohesive statement that resolves very plainly the questions asked, making clear those points they have been trying to establish for over 15 years? I would think that such an easy opportunity to not only establish their claims, but establish as well the honesty of their accounts and the honesty of the witnesses they have presented would be eagerly approached by someone who is actually telling the truth. Instead they've ignored every opportunity to establish their insistent assertions, and correct whatever doubts have been applied to the substance of their accounts.
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The bottom line regarding their assertions is simple: they cannot be trusted to tell the truth, so why would anybody believe anything at all that they have to say? Both men have proven themselves to be dishonest, so any information regarding this issue that they are being paid to discuss should not be trusted. These men have told numerous lies to support their claims, and that should be taken into consideration whenever they present such doubtful claims as those they have repeatedly consigned to the public trough. In light of this, it isn't even necessary to examine other cases that have originated with either man; if they have proven themselves to be unreliable and dishonest sources of information in one case, all other cases they've defined should be rejected in turn. Of course, this doesn't concern any cases that have not originated with Hastings or Salas, and should not be applied to them. The doubt originates with their ethics and honesty, and can't be applied to cases that have originated elsewhere.
Thank you,
James Carlson
jtcarl@yahoo.com
Albuquerque, NM
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People should look into James Carlson. He's a fraud and a liar, upset because his father was involved in one of these UFO ICBM incidents, and he doesn't want his family name associated with 'UFO's I suppose.... It's rather sad, actually, because he challenged Hastings and Salas on their veracity, and yet Hastings ultimately released the ACTUAL AUDIO of his interviews with ex-military personnel, corroborating exactly what Hastings claimed, and proving Carlson to be a little lax with the concept of 'truth.' Are you going to trust Hasting's actual audio recordings, or the hearsay of Carlson? Carlson claims to do this in defense of his family name, yet his long-winded, foaming-at-the-mouth tirades, found on many websites, do much more damage to that name than any mere association with a phenomenon that, at this point, only a fool would deny.... People should look into this Carlson vs. Hastings issue, because it's quite clear that Carlson's gone off the deep end. I believe a few of Hasting's witnesses have even threatened him with harassment and/or slander charges!
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And don't bother trying to engage me in "discussion", Mr. Carlson, as I'm not at all interested. Your antics and willingness to twist the truth are well-documented elsewhere. Transcripts and now audio of those witness interviews are available online, and you still (rather pitifully) just plug your ears and say "it can't be so!" You've gone so far as to accuse Hastings of manipulating the audio of those interviews (and... are you out of your MIND?!?), yet when challenged on that, you always seem to leave the conversation, or try to bury the fact with a cloud of other nonsense....
Give it up, James Carlson. You can't refute that audio that Hastings has released, and you know it! Even the one witness you say has "abandoned" Hastings has not; you've provided nothing but hearsay from alleged personal e-mails with him... yet that audio exists and is out there, freely available, and that witness clearly says what he says....
So, nice try, but you've failed. You can no longer rely on people just not paying attention closely enough to refute your winding, wordy tantrums.
(And now... it's about time for a long-winded reply from Mr. Carlson. Watch! Brace yourselves for yet another very public and very cringe-worthy 10,000 word reply.)
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I don't need 10,000 words to take out a pathetic case like the one you've championed Hastings has already admitted to liberally editing and "correcting" the transcripts of his telephone conversations for "clarity". In addition, those witnesses who took place in those recorded conversations are the one's who have raised the issue of his dishonesty, not me. They insist that he has manipulated the recordings, has taken their statments out of context, and has left behind the supposed conclusion that a UFO was involved, where they have insisted no such UFO ever existed. Go back to school, boy. You've apparently learned nothing.
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Your anonymity alone speaks volumes in regard to the courage of your convictions, boy.
Try talking to all of the witnesses as I have. You might learn something about the frauds you defend. In any case, grow up. Spitballs and insults will hardly get you a career outside of the fast food industry.
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James, you should be embarrassed. You can so easily be shown to play "loose with the truth."
Figel admits that he received UFO reports from those Airmen while he was locked way down there on missile duty, and that he at first didn't take it seriously. DO YOU DENY THAT, James?
You said: "Hastings has already admitted to liberally editing and "correcting" the transcripts of his telephone conversations...." I'd like you to show me specifically where Hastings has said that he has "liberally edited" and "corrected" the transcripts. Please paste in this supposed quote of his "admission" of "liberal" editing and "correcting." Also provide the URL, so that I can confirm it. Because I don't believe you, frankly.
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2. You also claim, James, that the very witnesses we hear on Hastings' freely-available audio interviews now say that Hastings "has manipulated the recordings" and "has taken their statements out of context...." You can of course provide evidence that these witnesses have said such things, can't you James? Again, IF you are credible, you'll provide something that an objective 3rd party can confirm -- verified quotes by these witnesses, with the URL's. (And since you've accused a person of fraud, which is rather serious in my circle, know that hearsay and imaginary "private e-mails" which you don't have "permission" to release, etc., do not suffice. Do you understand why? We need something validated... out there... them in their own words... which they'll stand behind. Because retractions must be proportional and congruent to(in scope, source, etc.) the original statements which are being retracted. In other words, don't come back here and say so-and-so "told me this in a private e-mail, I swear." Because your credibility is low, to put it mildly.
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I'm actually almost positive, James, that you won't be providing any verifiable quotes from Hastings or his witnesses... at least not any that can be characterized the way you've tried to, above. But I'm excited to see exactly WHICH method you'll use to avoid providing these quotes and URL's.
Finally, ignorance and mis-information like yours, James, is what keeps the UFO topic stigmatized. Yet you wonder why people with credentials don't feel free to *openly* discuss it online? (That's okay; we're now here anonymously to call-out frauds like you!) You DO realize that employers google their applicants' names, correct? (You might consider what a potential web search of your name would reveal, by the way....) Oh, also, if you knew of my credentials (which, trust me, trump yours in almost every way), you surely wouldn't be calling me "boy" or making fast-food jokes in that immature manner.
I'm just someone who would simply like to see you back up your claim of fraud by another, that's all. Does that annoy you? Too bad! I can back my anonymous words up. Does your name buttress yours? Not at ALL....
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I just noticed... you recommend that I "Try talking to all of the witnesses as [you] have."
So then, where can I hear their testimony to you? Have you posted audio somewhere? (Hastings has. Both!) Or, in your case, lemme guess... it's all "private" e-mails or something and you don't have the proper "permission," right?
Put up, or shut up. You're accusing someone of academic fraud, basically, and that you're so casual about it, and so casual with your "facts," should be extremely bothersome to an academic community such as the one hosting this site.
Where are YOUR transcripts or audio recordings, James Carlson, like Hastings has provided?
WHERE?!?
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Tell me, Robert, don't you have any pride at all? I can understand you not having the courage of your convictions, but can't you at least stand up for them yourself instead of creating these ridiculous "fans" who believe in you so much that they're willing to state for the record all sorts of pathetic things to help you out? Good God, you've done this twice at Reality Uncovered and once at ATS, and you always use the same phrases and make the same silly little points, as if they're enough to pull your reputation out of the toilet. They're not. For God's sake, grow up. If you intend to argue these worthless little points, at least have the guts to do it yourself instead of relying on these anonymous figures or inventing these silly little characters to do it for you. This the fourth time you've tried this scam, and it's no better than your other scams. Either find some real courage to discuss your claims and answer a few hard questions, or drift off into nameless obscurity like you deserve. VitalijGusev35? Are you kidding? Jeez, you kill me, you schmuck...
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James, do you think *I* am Robert Hastings? Or Vitalij? (Who are you calling a 'schmuck', in other words?! And I'm sure your father is so very proud, you out here defending the Carlson name so honorably. Well done, lad!)
Anyway, I'm not Robert Hastings. He and I don't even have similar writing styles. (See above.) I KNEW you'd avoid answering my simple questions, but I didn't predict you'd stoop this low.
So, once again:
1) Figel admits that he received UFO reports from those Airmen while he was down on missile duty. Do you deny that?
2) Where has Hastings "admitted to liberally editing and "correcting" the transcripts", as you claim? (Quote and URL, please.)
3) Where can I read about these witnesses of Hastings who, you claim, say he "has manipulated the recordings" and "has taken their statements out of context"? (Quote and URL, please.)
Do you have transcripts, James, corroborated by witness audio that we lay-people can hear? Hastings does. Do you have anything at all beyond 'private e-mails' that back up YOUR claims? (I can answer this one: no, you don't, or we'd know by now....)
So no, I'm not Hastings. Just someone interested in truth WRT the UFO topic, who's repulsed by your claims (which you refuse to buttress with actual evidence), by your mis-information, and by your "debate" tactics.
If you have ANY credibility, James Carlson, you'll address the three questions I've asked you twice now.
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I know you are, pal. Get over yourself. This is just more of the same old stuff. You do this all the time, and it's embarrassing. If you got an argument to make, you can at least use your real name. Pretending that there are actually people who have got your back is pathetic. When you decide to quit hiding behind your foolish little affectations, give me a call. I don't think you will, because you have no case to argue, but if you feel like it, do it in public with your real name just like a big boy, okay, Robert? Right now, this is just sad, 'cause you never change your strategy -- you always rely on the big lie first. It makes it so much easier for your to avoid answering questions. If you need some personal advice on how to act like an adult, you just give me a call. You'll have to use your real name, though, 'kay?
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I've never spoken to you, James Carlson. And it's not MY argument to make. Do you not understand that you've accused someone of academic fraud, essentially, and (despite 3 prior, specific requests) you've provided no evidence in support of your accusation except your own general statements? "Trust me", is your evidence.
So, let me see if I understand your position clearly: we are to accept YOUR WORD over and above witness interview transcripts, corroborated by the interview audio? Does that sound reasonable to you?
So once again, I'll ask you.... (and we can do this all week long if you'd like...):
1) Do you deny the following: Figel admits that he received UFO reports from the Airmen up above, while he was locked down there on missile duty.
2) Where has Hastings "admitted to liberally editing and "correcting" the transcripts", as you claim? (Quote and URL, please.)
3) Where can I read about these witnesses of Hastings who, you claim, say he "has manipulated the recordings" and "has taken their statements out of context"? (Quote and URL, please.)
4) Do you have interview transcripts, corroborated by the actual interview audio, that support YOUR claims? Show us where.
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Give it up Robert, this isn't fooling anyone. You got bested, you can either man up to it or throw a tantrum.
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Tell, me Robert: am I supposed to trust you on that, and believe everything you've got to say as if you possess the credibility to expect it?
You've exhibited a pattern of deceit, subterfuge, inconsistency, ignorance, and a marked propensity for attacking your critics while refusing to discuss, explain, or otherwise acknowledge their claims. You have slandered the names of those who hold contrary views, going so far as to invent a series of medical articles and studies substantiating a link between epilepsy and violent mania for only one purpose: to discredit your critics while attacking their credibility. Needless to say, this assumed link does not exist, and would be dismissed entirely by anybody knowledgeable of the subject; more importantly, these titles and documents have never even existed, another example of your reliance on lies and dishonesty. You have repeatedly charged on numerous internet forums and in private emails that my father told you I was mentally ill -- another base lie -- and that my analysis and the conclusions I have reached should be discounted as a result of that illness. You've even suggested that I abuse illegal drugs, and should not be trusted in regard to my assertions for that reason.
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On numerous forums internet-wide, you publically insisted for a full year that I had lied in regard to Col. Walt Figel's revelations, having never even spoken to or otherwise communicated with him, an accusation that you knew was a lie from the outset, because Col. Figel not only sent you a copy of one of the very same emails he sent to me, he also discussed the matter with you in a telephone call that you initiated only days later, the substance of which he has discussed in his subsequent written statements. You have repeatedly claimed to be in possession of irrefutable evidence in relation to the incident at Echo Flight, but you have never published or otherwise discussed any specific details to support that claim, insisting that my analysis of and conclusions reached in regard to Echo Flight were delusional, a strategy that once again allowed you to establish your assertions and my "faulty" assessment without once presenting any evidence to support such claims.
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You have repeatedly insisted that Col. Figel had denounced my claims entirely, had refused to confirm my father's assessment of the incident, and had confirmed in full your analysis and your conclusion that a UFO was responsible for those missile failures, all of which are untrue and have been denounced in their entirety by both Figel and my father, accusations that you once again knew were false, having been dismissed completely by the only two people who were actually at Echo Flight on the date in question. You have promised to answer in detail many specific questions asked by your critics in order to illuminate the incidents under examination, none of which you have followed up on, a strategy allowing you to appear knowledgeable in regard to the matter while once again neglecting to establish that knowledge. All of these charges are easily proven, and many have been archived on the internet.
In light of all of this, can you think of one single, appropriate, or compelling reason for me (or anybody else) to trust you in regard to anything whatsoever, let alone the veracity of your ridiculous UFO claims?
I sure as Hell can't...
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I am also asking that the person who is the actual author of the “Anonymous” posts on this blog supporting my work—the ones that James says I wrote—to contact me at ufohastings@aol.com ASAP. Please! Your identity and email address will be kept strictly confidential unless you grant me permission to publicize it
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Trolls be trolling....and are seriously long-winded.
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More reasons why we should allow concealed carry on campus!
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Say it with me now, association does not equal causation. Just because there were unidentified aircraft over missile silos doesn't mean that they were the cause of any kind of malfunctions. For example did you know that over 50% of all missile silo incidents occur while the sun is overhead. I've had light bulbs burn out while geese were flying over my house but you don't see me buying light bulbs in bulk during fall and spring migrations. To claim that aircraft were somehow responsible for mechanical mishaps is superstitious not scientific.
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And once again, Robert Hastings exits the stage with nothing interesting to say...
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Anonymous: forgive me for swiping your "Reply to this"; it was done in error. Although I don't believe UFOs were ever reported at Echo Flight, I think your comments regarding association and causation were nonetheless enlightening and well appreciated. It would be nice if others applied the same type of logic as you.
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it's not a problem reply accidents occur quite often
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Hi James,
Following my appearance at VA Tech and U VA, I had cataract surgery and am just now getting back online. I see that your paranoia is intact and that you have been sparring with someone you have assumed was me. That, coupled with your typical manic behavior (What, only nine posts in a row?!) nicely demonstrates your ongoing mental instability, something your father pointedly mentioned to me and two of my colleagues in separate telephone conversations in 2008. Of course you won't seek help so I won't even suggest it again.
As for the person who has been defending the documented nature of the material I have published and posted, relating to UFO involvement in the missile malfunction incidents at Malmstrom AFB in 1967, thank you for standing up to James. Arguing with someone as unbalanced as James Carlson is a no-win proposition. Nevertheless, if you wish to defend my work at other blogs, please do so.
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Yeah, you're a funny guy alright. In light of all of the above offenses you've personally authored, can you think of one single, appropriate, or compelling reason for me (or anybody else) to trust you in regard to anything whatsoever, let alone the veracity of your ridiculous UFO claims?
I sure as Hell can't... we've played this game before, sport, and you have no moral or appreciable defense for anything that you claim, including your pathetic denials here. The point is, I don't believe anything you say -- nobody should. You're a liar and a fraud; you never change, you only clean up the killing floor a little bit. There's no paranoia involved, pal -- just the same crap you always pull, and it's very evident everytime you resort to these strategies. You proved my point nicely by waiting the requisite five days before coming along to insist "not me!" Thanks for that -- I've been expecting it.
You've been doing this for years, Robert, and I figured you out a long, long time ago. Frankly, it's sickening for an adult to act this way.
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And I know exactly what my father told you, just as I know what Figel told you. I know, because I asked them. So knock off the lies about my mental state, and about all the things my father supposedly told you. You're a stranger to him, so why exactly would he open up to you about one of his sons? He wouldn't, and he didn't, and your attempts to attack my credibility instead of my arguments, his claims, and Walt Figel's claims are pathetic. People know when you're lying, Robert, because even after all of the practice you've had, you're still not very good at it. Grow up. You're a fraud, so either fix it or admit to it. In any case, stop whining, for God's sake. Show a little moral courage for once in your life...
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We are in luck, James, apparently someone has created software that will settle the issue of authorship relating to the blog posts in question:
http://technicallyphilly.com/2011/11/15/authorship-recognition-software-from-drexel-university-lab-to-be-released-december-video
Once this is on the market, later this month, I recommend that you or someone else reading this post use it to determine whether I wrote any post on this thread other than those from “Robert Hastings”. If that is found to be the case, I will pay you $5,000, no questions asked.
Of course, if the opposite result is discovered, I will expect a full public apology from you. When that happens, everyone should look for the flying pigs…
I am also asking that the person who is the actual author of the “Anonymous” posts on this blog supporting my work—the ones that James says I wrote—to contact me at ufohasting@aol.com ASAP. Please! Your identity and email address will be kept strictly confidential unless you grant me permission to publicize it
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To reiterate: you're a liar and a fraud and I don't believe you. In light of your very many proven lies and pathetic claims and arguments, I see no reason why anyone should believe you. And the $5,000.00? You must be doing better than I thought selling your lies and slanders -- and you've claimed so often that you don't do it for money, and that the money isn't very substantial. You really are in it for the cash, just as I've been saying for years! Either that or you have no intention of ever paying out a cent. You've made promises before, Robert, and you've failed miserably to keep any of them.
Remember this one from February, 2010? "I am flying to Alaska tomorrow to give a lecture at UAA. I will print out your list of questions, read them on the flight, and have answers for you sometime over the weekend."
Or this one? "Three developments--two of them directly related to the ongoing exchange between James Carlson and myself--will delay, by up to two weeks, my posting my responses to James' questions. When I do respond, the information I will provide should leave no doubt as to who is accurately reporting on the events occurring at Echo Flight, on March 16, 1967, and who is not."
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I'm still waiting for you to keep those promises. How about these?
March 2010: "I re-interviewed Walt Figel on Monday evening. Salas re-interviewed him on Tuesday evening. We have both conversations on audiotape and we are currently transcribing them. We asked Figel to address James Carlson's interpretation of his statements and position on various things. James will not like what Walt had to say.
Figel has given Salas and me permission to publicize his statements as we see fit. I will post a comprehensive rebuttal to James' flawed claims in the next few days, providing verbatim excerpts from the conversations. I may even make key portions of the original audio tape available online."
So far nothing from there either. Of course, I spoke with Figel a day after you made these promises, and he said you were lying! He said he told both you and Salas exactly what he told me, nothing of which has anything even remotely similar to what you wrote above. Funny, though, how you failed in any way to produce those tapes, those claims, or the contents of that interview -- another promise of yours that wasn't worth spit.
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How about this one? "As previously noted, below, my replies to James' questions have been delayed. They will be posted soon, but only after I present additional pertinent information regarding Figel's comments to me and Bob Salas." Not only did yu never post them, you also never presented "additional pertinent information regarding Figel's comments to me and Bob Salas." Shameless, aren't you?
You should try telling the truth someday.
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Regarding your father’s comments to me and my associates, James, those conversations will be verified under oath in a court of law if you ever get around to suing me as you first mentioned over a year ago.
Of course, such a suit will result in an immediate counter-suit against you for defaming my reputation. We will give everyone involved—all of the former/retired USAF personnel who were at Malmstrom AFB in 1967 who I have interviewed on tape—to state under oath that I have accurately presented their comments to me. Then you will have an opportunity to prove that I am a “liar and fraud” as you have claimed countless times. You will of course fail and the judgment against you will mean that you will be paying me a significant amount of money.
Ball is in your court, James.
As to why your father would make candid statements to me, a complete stranger, about your questionable mental health, I first note that he also told me that he had not talked to you in years and didn’t even have contact information for you. So, James, who is the total stranger?
Sad…
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You really are the slimiest sort of liar imagineable. You think I would believe you before my own father? You've been playing these pathetic games with the truth for so long that you are now delusional. Let me reitierate what I've said so many times in the past. I have no intention of ever suing you. You are not intelligent enough or honest enough to make any claims that cannot be instantly destroyed, and your reactions to that are so entertaining to me, that I would never think of suing you. I don't want you to stop. Every single time you try to defend yourself against my public assertions, claims that I can easily prove, you end up doing or saying something so irretrievably stupid that it hurts your case immeasurably. You know, like that article you wrote and published entitled “The James T. Carlson Problem”
[see http://www.theufochronicles.com/2010/10/james-t-carlson-problem-robert-hastings.html], where you state: [see below]
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"In any case, the time has come for me to take inventory, in preparation for a possible legal action: While I am aware of numerous posts by James Carlson about all of this—on blogs at several websites—I’m certain that I’ve missed many more, given that they run into the hundreds at this point. So, I am seeking the reader’s assistance:
"I am asking that persons who want to the truth about the incidents at Malmstrom AFB in 1967 to be established—once and for all—to scour the Internet and locate posts in which Carlson has referred to me (or Bob Salas) as a 'fraud', a 'liar' a 'hoaxer' or similar defamatory terms. I am also interested in posts where James claims that he has 'proved' that Mr. Salas and I have misrepresented the facts. Those willing to assist me in this regard should send me links to the offending posts via ufohastings@aol.com."
You had me in tears over that one. I don't want to sue you, Robert. You're too stupid and dishonest, and I enjoy pointing that out far too much.
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Here, you might as well include this in your collection: YRobert Hastings and Robert Salas are both frauds, liars, and UFO hoaxers of the worst sort; I have repeatedly proven this, and I enjoy doing so. I find it so enjoyable that I will very likely continue to do so in the future. Both men have repeatedly misrepresented the facts of the cases they have discussed in order to support their claims that UFOs were responsible for missile failures that occured in March 1967 at Malmstrom AFB. The fact is, they are both liars and have been selling this story for years. What they have reported is untrue, and they know it. They simply aren't very good at the profession they've adopted. They are dishonest whackoes.
Have fun with it...
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Regarding the source of your condition of evident paranoia, manic behavior and general detachment from reality, we will leave it to court-appointed psychiatrists to decide its genesis. We do know—because you’ve publicly admitted it—that your military career was cut short due to your Frontal Lobe Epilepsy diagnosis.
We also know, although you refuse to acknowledge it, that the Internet is replete with information on epilepsy-related abnormal behaviors in some sufferers, including all of the traits you exhibit in your great many blog posts over the past several years. But, again, we will leave it to the psychiatrists to address this topic authoritatively. All I know, and others know, is that you exhibit many of those traits in your irrational ranting online. You are clearly a chronic liar, but are you a pathological liar? You are manic beyond belief, but is that an outcome of your condition or due to some other factors in your life? If you wish to pursue all of this in a legal venue then we will have an opportunity to find out.
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Really? Frontal Lobe Epilepsy? I've never claimed that, Robert, and I was never discharged due to it. Frontal Lobe Epilepsy is a very exact diagnosis, the symptoms of which I have never shown. You are a shameless, liar, but you cannot prove what never happened -- like your UFO claims, for instance. And I assure you, that the Internet is NOT replete with information on epilepsy-related abnormal behaviors in some sufferers, including all of the traits I have supposedly exhibited in my many blog posts over the past several years -- not in this or most of the last century. In fact, there are a large number of medical associations who would find the suggestion insulting -- as would I and any other well-educated person. You're an ignorant old buffoon, Robert, and I'm quite enjoying pointing that out every time you say something so provably stupid. Carry on, please ...
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CORRECTED TYPO (MY CORRECT EMAIL ADDRESS IS BELOW):
I am also asking that the person who is the actual author of the “Anonymous” posts on this blog supporting my work—the ones that James says I wrote—to contact me at ufohastings@aol.com ASAP. Please! Your identity and email address will be kept strictly confidential unless you grant me permission to publicize it
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I can't wait to see how you spin this one, as I'm certain he will "contact" you sooner or later to give you another opportunity to prove a point you are incapable of proving. The point you seem to be missing here is a simple one: if nobody believes you, what's the point of insisting to them that this time you're telling the truth?
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Unlike you, James, I have a life outside the blogosphere, with many useful things to do, hence my delay in responding to your predictable, delusional crap.
Have you ever noticed, James, that persons confronted by their family and friends in Intervention-type situations are always convinced that they themselves are perfectly fine, have no problems, and need no help? They seem genuinely puzzled that everyone else thinks they are in deep trouble.
This is a perfect analogy for your own situation except perhaps, in your case, most of those attempting to confront you with the reality-detached nature of your thinking are strangers writing on blogs. An excellent example is the anonymous person on this thread—no, it was not I, despite your paranoid claims to the contrary—who noted the irony in your stated purpose of defending your father’s claims and reputation against persons such as myself while, in actuality, you only bring shame on your family name by incessantly demonstrating what an irrational liar you are. It’s no wonder, at least to me, that your father had not attempted to reach you for years and showed little interest in doing so when I spoke to him in 2008. As I said earlier, it’s all rather sad.
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What's sad is your inability to counter the proof of your dishonesty and fraudulent behavior. If you actually had a case, you wouldn't find it so necessary to make up more lies in order to attack your critics. You haven't established any valid arguments in years, which is the main reason you are now relying on anonymous "sources" for the crap you call "evidence". Your reactions alone have repeatedly confirmed your fraudulent behavior. You're a liar, Robert, and that's your only strategy -- lying. Your own witnesses have repeatedly insisted that your UFO tales have no basis in fact. You're still selling your book and shilling your theories in regard to UFOs and nukes, doing so in full knowledge that your "accomplishments" are a complete waste of time. More and more people discover that plain fact every day. The big lie is your only functional tool, but you're not intelligent enough to see that. It's a shame you lost the opportunity to quit while you were ahead; failing to do so leaves you with nothing but a poor reputation as a liar, a hoaxer, and a fraud.
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Anyone can go to my website, www.ufohastings.com, and read the articles containing links to the audio tapes of my conversations with Cols. Walt Figel and Fred Meiwald, who provide testimony contradicting your many claims. If you will pay for the analysis, I will have the tapes verified as authentic and unaltered, by any expert you choose. Of course, you won’t do that because it’s much easier to continue to claim that I have doctored the tapes.
Back in June, I challenged you to produce an email, affidavit, or other record from both Figel and Meiwald, in which they assert that I have altered the tapes or otherwise misrepresented their lengthy comments to me. Of course, you have never done so because they have never claimed that I ever wrote anything inaccurately or did anything dishonest.
In short, Figel says that UFOs were present at Malmstrom AFB’s Echo Flight when the missiles malfunctioned. Meiwald says they were present at Oscar Flight when those missiles went down. Of course, Bob Salas, another officer who was present for the Oscar event, has been saying that for years—only to be viciously attacked by you in response. Only your father denies a UFO-involvement in the shutdowns, despite Figel’s statement to me that he and your father were explicitly told not to talk about the incident. As I say, anyone can listen to the tapes.
So, rant on, James, rant on.
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And all anybody has to do to learn the truth in regard to your character flaws is to examine the already confirmed facts of this case at:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/26641522/Americans-Credulous-by-James-Carlson
I would also recommend that you examine the numerous interviews and articles at the Reality Uncovered website: http://www.realityuncovered.net/ -- many of the front articles discuss the events at Echo Flight in March 1967, and include interviews with both the commander and the deputy commander at Echo Flight on March 16, 1967 when the missiles were taken offline by an electronic noise pulse, an incident that was thoroughly investigated and very well documented.
A lot information regarding this incident can also be found at the Reality Uncovered forum, in particular the Echo Flight Incident thread.
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Anyone can go to my website, www.ufohastings.com, and read the articles containing links to the audio tapes of my conversations with Cols. Walt Figel and Fred Meiwald, who provide testimony contradicting your many claims. If you will pay for the analysis, I will have the tapes verified as authentic and unaltered, by any expert you choose. Of course, you won’t do that because it’s much easier to continue to claim that I have doctored the tapes.
Back in June, I challenged you to produce an email, affidavit, or other record from both Figel and Meiwald, in which they assert that I have altered the tapes or otherwise misrepresented their lengthy comments to me. Of course, you have never done so because they have never claimed that I ever wrote anything inaccurately or did anything dishonest.
In short, Figel says that UFOs were present at Malmstrom AFB’s Echo Flight when the missiles malfunctioned. Meiwald says they were present at Oscar Flight when those missiles went down. Of course, Bob Salas, another officer who was present for the Oscar event, has been saying that for years—only to be viciously attacked by you in response. Only your father denies a UFO-involvement in the shutdowns, despite Figel’s statement to me that he and your father were explicitly told not to talk about the incident. As I say, anyone can listen to the tapes.
So, rant on, James, rant on.
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Proof of your failures is easily established; all I had to do was question your witnesses for myself -- they immediately confirmed that you're lying, and they provided me with the written statements asserting that fact.
There were no UFOs involved at Malmstrom AFB in 1967 -- it is a lie, another sad little UFO hoax intended to swell the heads and bank accounts of those asserting the lie and nothing more. All you've offered are recordings that you admit to editing and that you've failed entirely to even show they were made by those you insist made them. Funny that the witnesses themselves have charged you with fraudulent acts and poorly asserted claims -- funny to me anyway. You're such an easily countered theorist with so little evidence thatI almost feel sorry for you -- almost.
And I have already confirmed with Col. Figel that he sent you the same materials he sent me. It has been confirmed many times over -- something you are already aware of; once again you are merely relying on the big lie. Pathetic.
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Proof of your failures is easily established; all I had to do was question your witnesses for myself -- they immediately confirmed that you're lying, and they provided me with the written statements asserting that fact.
There were no UFOs involved at Malmstrom AFB in 1967 -- it is a lie, another sad little UFO hoax intended to swell the heads and bank accounts of those asserting the lie and nothing more. All you've offered are recordings that you admit to editing and that you've failed entirely to even show they were made by those you insist made them. Funny that the witnesses themselves have charged you with fraudulent acts and poorly asserted claims -- funny to me anyway. You're such an easily countered theorist with so little evidence thatI almost feel sorry for you -- almost.
Figel has already confirmed that he sent you the same communications he sent me. I still have all of those emails, and they have your name on it, so quit trying to weasel out of this hole you've dug by making claims you already know are false. Funny how the first thing you always do is lie. Perhaps you should examine the facts for once in your life -- maybe then you'd recognize it.
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Proof of your failures is easily established; all I had to do was question your witnesses for myself -- they immediately confirmed that you're lying, and they provided me with the written statements asserting that fact.
There were no UFOs involved at Malmstrom AFB in 1967 -- it is a lie, another sad little UFO hoax intended to swell the heads and bank accounts of those asserting the lie and nothing more. All you've offered are recordings that you admit to editing and that you've failed entirely to even show they were made by those you insist made them. Funny that the witnesses themselves have charged you with fraudulent acts and poorly asserted claims -- funny to me anyway. You're such an easily countered theorist with so little evidence thatI almost feel sorry for you -- almost.
Figel has already confirmed that he sent you the same communications he sent me. I still have all of those emails, and they have your name on it, so quit trying to weasel out of this hole you've dug by making claims you already know are false. Funny how the first thing you always do is lie. Perhaps you should examine the facts for once in your life -- maybe then you'd recognize it.
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So, where is Figel's written statement that I have doctored the tapes of my conversations with him or have otherwise misrepresented his statements to me? Or Meiwald's? Post them here or at any blog of your choosing--immediately!
But you can't provide those, can you? I wonder why.
All you can do is continue to repeat the same lies (actually, delusions, since you really seem to believe what you write about all of this).
As I said, if you will pay for it, I will have the tapes analyzed by any expert you select to do the task, to prove that they are authentic and unaltered.
You coward. Do the right thing, at long last. Take me up on this offer. Ball is in your court.
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A lot information regarding this incident can also be found at the Reality Uncovered forum, in particular the Echo Flight Incident thread: http://www.realityuncovered.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=1688&sid=fb3fd24f098c0f3bc35595ea1b41a146.
Tim Hebert, an ex-USAF missileer himself, has also written some enlightening articles regarding the case on his blog at: http://timhebert.blogspot.com/
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IRT: "As I said, if you will pay for it, I will have the tapes analyzed by any expert you select to do the task, to prove that they are authentic and unaltered."
You keep making promises like this that you never intend to keep -- it just public relations with you. You are dishonest, and every promise you neglect proves the point. This is just another example of that hubris and mediocrity supporting your lies. I'm not paying for squat -- if you want to prove your claims, it's your responsibility to do so; I've already proven you're a liar and a fraud, and I'm comfortable with that -- as are Figel and Meiwald. Why the Hell would I be willing to pay for your lies? Are you that insane, or just stupid? The men you insist are on those tapes have already said that they never made the claims you say they made, and those letters have already been authenticated, as have the emails Figel sent you telling you that fact! You know, people tell em all the time that they're very confident you're a fraud, because if you were telling the truth, proving it would be so easy. All you'd have to do would be to get your witnesses, Figel and Meiwald, to write very plainly a statement tying UFOs to the missile failures incidents. The fact that you can't do that is plainly an indication of your fraudulent behavior.
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Reading your own transcripts makes this equally clear. Meiwald has repeatedly affirmed that he remembers nothing at all about a UFO affectinmg any missiles -- only that 30 years later, Salas told him it happened. Your such a poor analyst of these events that you don't even notice it anymore when someone says "I don't remember anything about a UFO." How pathetic is that?
The ball's always been in my court, pal. You have no evidence, no measured accounts, and nothing to suggest that you and Salas are telling the truth. You continue to change your stories whenever evidence proves them baseless, and your talent for lying aside, you have nothing else to suggest your claims are true. I have numerous emails from you making statements that Figel has disputed in full, and both Meiwald and Figel have repeatedly insisted that there's nothing to your theories except lies. I have published emails from you that consist of blatant lies that have been repeatedly proven to be lies, and you have yet to answer any questions in regard to those assertions. And you want me to pay for your tape analysis? Are you an idiot?
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And if I did agree, you'd do nothing! You've played this ridiculous nonsense game many times in the past, and you've always done NOTHING! And now you're talking about having tapes analyzed to prove that what the subjects of those tapes have already repeatedly affirmed is false? Go for it, pal, but I won't wait up for you. You always talk about what you'll do in the future, and you never do anything except complain. Well, bring it on -- I'd love to see you produce something interesting for a change aside from these pale protests. Why don't you do something about it for a change instead of outlining your silly objections with promises for the future, easily proven lies, and insulting comments that establish nothing but your unwillingness to produce actual evidence. You're a loser now, and you'll always be a loser -- all because offer nothing but insistent cries of protest. Grow up, for God's sake, and make a case if you've got one. Your constant B.S. is pathetic, and it proves nothing except your inability to produce something valid and believable -- an assessment that Figel, Meiwald, and my father all agree is accurate. You're just an insistent old man with nothing intelligent to say, and that's what you'll eventually die as -- a failure victimized by his own obsessive dishonesty and his inability to justify himself or his claims.
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