Ron Paul’s foreign policy ideas do not benefit nation

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Ron Paul is one of the four remaining politicians currently vying for the Republican Party nomination, and as a true libertarian, he is a bit of an outlier compared to most Republicans.

One idea that separates Paul from most Republicans, as well as many Democrats, is that he is an ardent opponent of U.S. interventionism in other countries, and could reasonably be described as an isolationist.

While many of Paul’s ideas on the role of government and how far our government has strayed from the Constitution are interesting, and perhaps compelling, his views on American foreign policy that preach strong isolationism are misguided, and would be dangerous if applied.

Congressman Paul seems to believe that the U.S. should remove itself militarily from the rest of the world and cease most military operations outside our borders. He also argues against most forms of economic interventionism, such as foreign aid, or using assets and corporations for the country’s interests abroad.

The problem with Paul’s isolationist rhetoric is that U.S. interventionism is extremely important to world peace and the global economic stability.

The presence of the U.S. military in other parts of the world in the post-World War II era has helped ensure World War III doesn’t occur. ‘World peace’ is probably not a realistic goal, but ‘world stability’ is certainly within the realm of
possibility.

Thanks to U.S. interventionism, and the international organizations our involvement in global politics helped create, a general degree of political stability has existed in the world since the 1940s.

There have obviously been conflicts since America began its interventionist policies, but overall, the U.S. presence politically and militarily in world politics has created a certain degree of political stability that has kept the major world powers from trying to annihilate each other again, like we almost did during World War II.

The United States’ economic presence in the world has created a generally stable world economy, the current recession notwithstanding, and is one of the major reasons products, capital and money have been able to spread so rapidly around the modern world. The stability interventionist U.S. economic policy creates in the world is helping people in poor and rich nations alike find success.

Yet, Congressman Paul believes that the U.S. would be better off not intervening in the global scene, in regards to the political, military and economic policies that have led to a somewhat stable system and benefit many countries around the world. He seems to believe that ceasing interventionist policies and minding our own affairs within our own borders is the best thing for our country.

This sort of philosophy, of keeping our eyes trained only on the lands and peoples in the borders of the U.S., perhaps would work in the 19th century, when a country as large as ours could survive without being involved in the rest of the world, but it certainly cannot work today.

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A version of this article appeared in the Mar 23 issue of the Collegiate Times.

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Anonymous | # March 22, 2012 @ 10:40 PM — Flag Comment

Militarily, not meddling in other countries affairs is entirely in our best interest. Otherwise, we experience blowback. I'm sure you've heard of it. According to the 9/11 commission, it is the reason for 9/11. Look it up. I wish you had before writing this article, as, this article would then have no purpose of existing. Thank you, Devin Miller, for your uninformed perspective

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steve | # July 6, 2012 @ 5:14 AM — Flag Comment

I think you fail to realize that we're far past the point of being able to 'all of a sudden' pullback from other countries. We are CURRENTLY protecting some countries, not just that we may be able to protect them in the future due to a possible attack, we are protecting them right now. Do I think it's right that we were in these countries to begin with? No. But Ron Paul IS a isolationist .... if we were to separate from the rest of the world, it would have DEVASTATING effects and we would have absolutely no control on possible blow backs then. Did you ever think about that there might be a country that will think we're much more vulnerable now that we pulled back? Maybe the country that we pulled back from will get attacked now....

His ideas would have worked over 100 years ago. He speaks good about the Constitution, he tells people how they the founding fathers intended for the Constitution to be interpreted....But that is one of the only few things he knows and he knows well. He has a success rate of .001% when it comes to co-sponsoring/sponsoring bills.


If you're a millionaire and you see a homeless guy getting beat up on the street, would you help him? If your answer is no then you're morally cold and if your answer is yes then you do think it's okay to fight in wars that aren't ours.

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Anonymous | # March 22, 2012 @ 10:50 PM — Flag Comment

You have not done your homework. The reason the people of other countries have a problem with our country is exactly what you are saying is great. Do some research on blowback. Not that you have to, because most recently P.M. Netanyahu made it very clear that his country can take care of themselves, and need to act as they see fit. Pretty clear if you ask me. We don't need to fight in wars that are not ours. We don't need to give money to other countries when we are broke and have problems of or own. Oh fyi, Dr. Paul is not an isolationist, he is a non-interventionist, and yes there is a difference.

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I think Ron Paul is the only one with any integrity in US politics. | # March 22, 2012 @ 10:55 PM — Flag Comment

this is a new video that explains why Ron Paul is loved by all who love liberty.

http://www.youtube.com/user/tmotofga

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Paul | # March 22, 2012 @ 11:11 PM — Flag Comment

Your're simply wrong. In the Cold War, government intervention in affairs was necessary to stop communism. What are we stopping now? Nothing...we are just wastefully spending money in other countries that don't even want us there.

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Sterling D Bushnell | # March 22, 2012 @ 11:51 PM — Flag Comment

and we didnt even stop that with the wars we did get involved with.

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Anonymous | # March 22, 2012 @ 11:14 PM — Flag Comment

Devin miller you have just published an incorrect assessment of Ron Paul's foreign policy. Ron Paul wants to bring our military home while continue to trade with the world. He has never mentioned adopting foreign and economic policies like North Korea. America would continue all of her engagements in the world just not militarily. Also a thing called diplomacy would be Ron Paul's weapon of choice. The author of the above article has done a tremendous disservice to his country by writing this disinformation. I sincerely hope the author considers writing retraction or at least come up with a genuine argument.

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Anonymous | # March 22, 2012 @ 11:19 PM — Flag Comment

Explain to me exactly how foreign military intervention benefits the USA or any other country for that matter. Do you not realize that it costs money to go to war? The taxpayers are on the hook for that, but that's not even the worst part. How about all the military families and veterans who have sacrificed dearly? Or all the civilian casualties in other countries? All of that to obtain the impossible, world stability. There is nothing about this world that is stable. You are implying using force to create peace, there could be nothing more naive. The government's role of creating "world stability" is not in the Constitution. At what price would you want world stability? What if it meant losing our national sovereignty and monetary stability? Would it be worth it then? The "well intended" policies you are advocating have disastrous results that can not be reasonably ignored.

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Anonymous | # March 22, 2012 @ 11:32 PM — Flag Comment

Until you serve in the military and see people close to you come back home to their country in a casket drapped in a flag your vewpoint is invalid. Why is either war important at this point? There will never be an end to people who want tok ill American soldiers.

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Louis Nardozi | # March 22, 2012 @ 11:39 PM — Flag Comment

Oh please,

Do describe for us just precisely HOW we benefit. A bald assertion just doesn't work in this day and age. Let's see, in the past few years we've spent upwards of 5 trillion dollars on this 'policy'. Let's see, at 120,000,000 taxpaying American that comes out to $41,000 per TAXPAYER, not per person. So what you're saying is, though we were already safe as houses due to sitting on 30,000 nuclear weapons I needed to give you ANOTHER $41,000 to piss away overseas so I could be even SAFER? Seriously, how could you be so cowardly and afraid that you live in the safest place in the world and yet you're willing to basically throw away $41,000 so you can feel even SAFER? There's something seriously wrong with you. You need anti-anxiety drugs or something.

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Adam | # March 22, 2012 @ 11:41 PM — Flag Comment

Apparently you've never served in the military. It's probably easy to sit back and write these articles when you've never seen someone blown up by an IED. Just simply ask yourself why it is that Ron Paul receives more support from military personnel than anyone else? I'd suggest writing an article about all of the things the others have voted for that violate the constitution. It's pretty sad when people become affraid to follow the document that our country is founded on. All the best...

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Fyi | # March 22, 2012 @ 11:49 PM — Flag Comment

When did Virginia Tech become a "special needs" school? Is this the type of critical thinking and analysis reasoning they are graduating today? My God......

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Anonymous | # March 23, 2012 @ 12:23 AM — Flag Comment

Homework time for you

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=wQs5hoHW_Qc

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Karl Marx | # March 23, 2012 @ 12:26 AM — Flag Comment

Here is a very disturbing link showing Ron Paul (who could reasonably be described as a non interventionist who will stop needlessly bankrupting the country through continuous foreign intervention that modern America is only indoctrinated into believing is a necessary greater good) polling best against Obama. This just came out today. Be very worried, faithful statists and well trained minions. Be very worried.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ron-paul-more-electable-than-mitt-romney-in-latest-poll-2012-03-22

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Bryce | # March 29, 2012 @ 1:10 PM — Flag Comment

Want to bet me ten-thousand my dollars, my friend?

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Zach Martin | # March 23, 2012 @ 12:43 AM — Flag Comment

Let's start from the beginning. Spanish American War left us with the Phillipines, Japan needed Phillipine resources to wage war in China 43 years later, attacks our fleet at Pearl Harbor to stop reinforcement of their attack on the P.I. We finally defeat Japan, whose intervention in China forced Reds and Nationalists to stop civil war and unite. After defeat, Reds take over China, Mao oversees the deaths of 70 million people. Also, Japanese defeat leaves power vacuum in Indochina.
World War I makes the world safe for World War II, we intervene and take pressure off of Soviets, who steamroll over Eastern Europe. 3 of every 4 divisions is in Europe, which allows Soviets to declare war against Japan toward the end (of our efforts) and take over Korea. They invade South 5 years later, we intervene, Chinese intervene. .
We can never know what the future will bring. Each time we fight a war abroad, it eventually brings about the need for another war. This perpetual warfare idea was the wet dream of Adolf Hitler. Is that what we strive for?

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Anonymous | # March 23, 2012 @ 1:54 PM — Flag Comment

Don't forget that there is a strong case that U.S. intervention in WWI led to the rise of Hitler. If the U.S. stayed out of WWI, and let the pesky republics in Western Europe duke it out among themselves, WWI would have eventually ended with some new territorial boundaries and the world might have moved on. Instead, the U.S. got involved, helped smash Germany, forced on them the extremely harsh Treaty of Versailles, which punished Germany more than its citizens could bare. A few years later comes Hitler, who promises Germans that he will get them out of the mess that the U.S., France and Britain put them in. Walla! WWII here we come!

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Anonymous | # March 23, 2012 @ 1:55 PM — Flag Comment

Don't forget that there is a strong case that U.S. intervention in WWI led to the rise of Hitler. If the U.S. stayed out of WWI, and let the pesky republics in Western Europe duke it out among themselves, WWI would have eventually ended with some new territorial boundaries and the world might have moved on. Instead, the U.S. got involved, helped smash Germany, forced on them the extremely harsh Treaty of Versailles, which punished Germany more than its citizens could bare. A few years later comes Hitler, who promises Germans that he will get them out of the mess that the U.S., France and Britain put them in. Walla! WWII here we come!

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Bob Waters | # March 23, 2012 @ 1:20 AM — Flag Comment

OMG, the absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence. America and Israel are about to start WWIII and I have the pleasure of reading this crap.

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Anonymous | # March 23, 2012 @ 1:24 AM — Flag Comment

Man, this writer is a joke.

If you think our presence is preventing world war III and the United States is acting on the idea of- don't give us anything in return, we just want peace and stability, what are you smoking brother?

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Anonymous | # March 23, 2012 @ 1:44 AM — Flag Comment

Thank you for mindlessly repeating this useless dribble of the main stream media. I really wouldn't know what to think if not for this mindless crap you call journalism.

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Jacob | # March 23, 2012 @ 2:06 AM — Flag Comment

You're right, militarism is absolutely a vital component of a free society. If you wouldn't send your child to die in a foreign nation for any one of our wars, then you don't have a right to support the government sending anyone else to die. You're a misguided fool, unwilling to admit when a failed policy has negatively affected the nation and the world as a whole.

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hmm | # March 23, 2012 @ 2:09 AM — Flag Comment

Reading this article just reminded me that arrogance is the basis of our foreign policy. As if the world would just explode if we don't dominate it. Our "aid" inevitably comes with strings attached. It is simply ludicrous to think that we have things so perfectly figured out in our system that we should export it around the world.

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Anonymous | # March 23, 2012 @ 2:10 AM — Flag Comment

I read up to:

"One idea that separates Paul from most Republicans, as well as many Democrats, is that he is an ardent opponent of U.S. interventionism in other countries, and could reasonably be described as an isolationist."

and stopped.

If the author doesn't recognize the difference between non-intervention (what we do with China and India), intervention (what we do with Iraq and Afghanistan) and isolationism (what we do with Syria and Iran) then I have to question how the author managed to get through a college entrance exam.

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MKMN | # March 23, 2012 @ 2:23 AM — Flag Comment

Wow,this article is transparently party-line, Neo-Con, Warmonger propaganda. Devin, you are wrong, and worse yet, you know deep down inside that you are wrong. You can justify it with this Trostskyite stance that is bankrupting our country and attempting to control the world, but you are wrong Devin!

So the question is this...Are you just ignorant? Are you pandering to your Pseudo Conservative overlords? Or are you justifying evil & well aware of it, to launch your career as a Liberal Big War Propagandist?

FYI Devin: WE ARE IN THE REPUBLICAN MACHINE! WE ARE TRUE CONSERVATIVES AND WE WILL NOT STOP UNTIL WE HAVE REARRANGED THE STRUCTURE OF THE GOP! YOU & YOUR ILK'S DAY ARE NUMBERED! YOU WILL GO THE WAY OF THE DODO!

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Mr. G | # March 23, 2012 @ 2:26 AM — Flag Comment

I'd just like to make a small correction to this article regarding your definition of isolationism. Let's just do a little homework here and take a look at the dictionary definition of isolationism: the policy or doctrine of isolating one's country from the affairs of other nations by declining to enter into alliances, foreign economic commitments, international agreements, etc.

Now let's look at the definition of non-intervention: abstention by a nation from interference in the affairs of other nations or in those of its own political subdivisions.

Mr. Miller, I hope you realize that you have not done adequate research when writing this article and I hope your editor notices this, as it is misrepresentation of Dr. Paul. Your incorrect description of Paul's foreign policy shows only that the only research you have done for this article is (by my guess) googling "Ron Paul foreign policy" and regurgitating what you saw, which was yet another misrepresentation.

There is a massive difference between isolationism and non-intervention. Never-mind being "collegiate" here; let's take it back to high school government class, where most of those students most likely have a better understanding of these two terms.

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Anonymous | # March 23, 2012 @ 3:26 AM — Flag Comment

"The solution, though, is not to cease our involvement in global affairs all together, but to change the way we intervene on the global level. We need to act in a less selfish and more moral way, so that the global good is focused on, which will lead to our own good as well.

Trying to create a safer and more stable world is a good thing for us and for our government to strive for, especially since America has the ability to create such a world, if we only change the way we direct our resources, power and effort."

It's nice to see that, in the end, you inadvertently agreed with Ron Paul.

There is no control with which to compare the geopolitical stability you laud throughout the article. None of us have a crystal ball to peer into or a device like the one from the old television series Sliders that can transport us to the proper alternate universe. The assumptions this is all based on are just that, assumptions, and those assumptions are not correct just because they are trumpeted incessantly by the establishment and the media.

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Anonymous | # March 23, 2012 @ 3:28 AM — Flag Comment

Zach Martin provides an interesting alternate history here in the comments, and there are many that take an opposing view. Here's a couple articles that I strongly recommend you review:

Felipe Dittrich Ferreira analyzes Ron Paul's foreign policy views, and links them to a study out of Oxford.
http://www.opendemocracy.net/felipe-dittrich-ferreira/foreign-policy-of-ron-paul


World of Judaica analyzes Ron Paul's foreign policy views and their hypothetical impact on Israel since 1948. Obviously Paul could not have been President all this time, but his policies could have been in effect.
http://www.worldofjudaica.com/jewish-news/international/what-would-israel-look-like-under-a-ron-paul-presidency-%28part-1%29/2222/78

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Anonymous | # March 23, 2012 @ 3:31 AM — Flag Comment

I should point out that if the nation fails under the weight of debt and mismanagement, we'll have a decidedly negative effect on global economic stability. One of the drivers of economic uncertainty in the United States is the growing national debt, and one of the primary drivers of that debt is foreign military expenditures.

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Jeff | # March 23, 2012 @ 5:42 AM — Flag Comment

This article is absolutely absurd. The writer is insinuating that America should play God. What a joke.

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Jay Tea | # March 23, 2012 @ 7:31 AM — Flag Comment

I don't know how many times I have to correct a writer for confusing Pual's foreign policy stance .. North Korea is Isolationist , Sweden is non intervionist .. Paul is a non interventionist .... BIG BIG DIFFERNCE..... Seems to be working for Sweden

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Charles Walker | # March 23, 2012 @ 10:25 AM — Flag Comment

Apr 24, 2006 ... Wilson's War: How Woodrow Wilson's Great Blunder Led to Hitler, Lenin, Stalin, and World War I I. by Jim Powel

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Anonymous | # March 23, 2012 @ 10:59 AM — Flag Comment

Seems someone is preparing to interview for som MSM Rag, and is padding their noecon resume with some regurgitated smear of MSM talking points.

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Anonymous | # March 23, 2012 @ 11:41 AM — Flag Comment

Apparently to Devin Miller, isolationism and not killing people are the same thing. Everyone today talks about how they love and respect our veterans - maybe you should spend less time showering them with gifts and spend more time actually listening to them. They contribute more to Ron Paul than to all other candidates combined.

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Matty | # March 23, 2012 @ 1:27 PM — Flag Comment

"and could reasonably be described as an isolationist."

Wrong.

Isolationist = North Korea.
Noninterventionist = Switzerland.
Interventionist = United States.

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Matty | # March 23, 2012 @ 1:31 PM — Flag Comment

"or using assets and corporations for the country’s interests abroad"

Say what? Have you ever heard Paul speak? Read any of his books? Ron Paul wants trade with EVERYONE. Paul is against sanctions in Iran, Cuba, etc. Paul wants Americans to travel to every country and for American business to be able to deal and trade with businesses in EVERY other country, with ZERO interference from the U.S. government. This is the complete opposite of isolation.

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Matty | # March 23, 2012 @ 1:42 PM — Flag Comment

This is one of the worst articles I have read in the CT. Devin, please read the following books: "Dying to Win," "Blowback," and "Good Muslim, Bad Muslim." U.S. intervention overseas is responsible for a fundamentalist Iran, the creation of Hezbollah, Hamas and Al-Queda, and the attacks of 9/11.

You say those who adhere to Paul's ideas have their eyes closed, but it is you who has your head in the sand. Look around you! The world is in turmoil, much of it because of U.S. intervention. The Arab Spring is blowback from the U.S. supporting dictators in the Middle East and Africa for decades, and the financial crisis in Western Europe and the U.S. are the result of the failure of U.S. monetary and fiscal policy.

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Hat Bailey | # March 23, 2012 @ 2:12 PM — Flag Comment

Do these clueless "columnists" ever read the comments? I hope the editor does, and we are not subjected to this kind of ignorant blogging laughingly called "journalism" in the future.

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John G | # March 23, 2012 @ 3:51 PM — Flag Comment

This article was so bad I think it gave me cancer.

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pel | # March 23, 2012 @ 9:22 PM — Flag Comment

"The presence of the U.S. military in other parts of the world in the post-World War II era has helped ensure World War III doesn’t occur"

Uhu. And why did Osama bin Laden became an enemy from a friend? Do not we owe exclusively to the US military "presence" in Saudi Arabia? Lots of piece did it buy us, didn't it?

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Starchild | # March 23, 2012 @ 11:35 PM — Flag Comment

Devin,

During the Cold War era, I felt much as you do -- that U.S. government military intervention in other countries was necessary to prevent the Soviets and their surrogates from spreading the disastrous rule of communism.

Since then, however, I can see less and less justification for such intervention. It comes with a very high price tag, which the increasingly indebted U.S. government can less and less afford, and it is not even clear that such intervention is a net positive in the world.

I agree with you that if the U.S. government's policies were based less on self-interest and more on moral precepts such as humanitarianism and the defense of freedom, things could be different. But what guarantees are there that politicians will act in this manner?

It seems to me that the pro-freedom and humanitarian impulses of the American people, collectively, are much sounder than those of the people running the U.S. government. Therefore, I think a sound policy would be to curtail government military interventions, and instead change the law to allow and encourage Americans to volunteer in overseas military actions on a volunteer basis. Many Americans did this during the Spanish Civil War in the 1930s, forming the Abraham Lincoln Brigade to fight against fascism in Spain.

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Starchild | # March 23, 2012 @ 11:36 PM — Flag Comment

(continued from previous comment)

There's no reason people can't similarly volunteer today, and have their efforts voluntarily financed by other individuals, groups, and companies donating equipment and supplies, instead of forcing soldiers to risk their lives in other countries when they do not want to be there.

I believe Ron Paul, who authored legislation authorizing letters of marque and reprisal (essentially putting bounties on the heads of terrorists) in response to the 9/11 attacks, would be fine with such actions. He also supports active economic and cultural engagement between the United States and the rest of the world, in the form of free trade, travel, guest workers, and so on. This is not "isolationism", but rather a non-statist approach to global engagement.

The GOP establishment may not be ready for this new approach, but I think Americans increasingly are.

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Anonymous | # March 27, 2012 @ 5:15 PM — Flag Comment

Noninterventionism is not isolationism. Switzerland is noninterventionist. North Korea is isolationist. See the difference?

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Anonymous | # March 27, 2012 @ 5:17 PM — Flag Comment

Noninterventionism is not isolationism. Switzerland is noninterventionist. North Korea is isolationist. See the difference?

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