Print Comment Email Column: Truth about China not being told by mainstream media
Shuagchun Yan, CT guest columnist
Friday, April 25; 12:00 AM
In the past two months, we've seen riots in Tibet, protests against China and the Olympics torch relay, counter-protests by the Chinese against untruthful biased mainstream media coverage and separatism, and a column article in the CT advocating using the Olympics to voice political concerns.

Reports from the MSM have certainly raised a lot of concerns about "cultural genocide" and "bloody crackdown" in Tibet and have drawn fierce criticism of China's "human rights records."

For peace- and freedom-loving people, these anti-China protests are absolutely reasonable, given what has been reported on the MSM. But as Chinese studying, working and living in the US, we have major concerns about whether these protesters and people in general have received adequate and impartial information before making their judgment. In fact, there has been a never-before-seen backlash against the MSM in the overseas Chinese communities for the past month.

The MSM reacted by frequently portraying us as "brainwashed" by a "communist government" whose nationalism resentment is "out of control," avoiding the real issue that caused this backlash, the extremely untruthful and biased reports on China's practice in Tibet. These very irresponsible and unprofessional reports, for example, used videos and pictures from Nepal and India to showcase the "crackdown" by the "Chinese armed force" on Tibetans.

All these are very upsetting for most Chinese overseas who are bilingual and have seen both sides.

Another reason for such a large-scale backlash among the Chinese is that we simply know our country well. We are aware of and familiar with the censorship in China that blocks some different voices.

This has made us more sensitive to the "smell" of censorship — whatever medium it is on. On the other hand, most pro-Tibet independence protestors and Tibetans grew up outside Tibet and have never been to China or Tibet, and most of the information they learned is very biased and incomplete.

I know what you might be thinking: This Chinese guy is so pathetic and has been brainwashed. But wait a minute, let's see whether you have gotten the whole story or not.

In a CBS interview, pro-Tibet American protesters in San Francisco weren't able to point out Tibet on a map. OK, that's just geography.

How many of these following facts, which can be verified by third-party sources, are you able to learn from the MSM? 1) The Dalai Lama was the theocratic feudalism dictator, and 95 percent of 1.2 million Tibetans were serfs under his rule until 1959. 2) The Dalai Lama banned the worship of deity Dorje Shugden among Tibetans in exile in India. 3) The CIA funded weapons and millions of dollars to the Dalai Lama-led "Tibetan government in exile" in the 1960s as part of a worldwide effort to undermine Communist governments. 4) Minorities in China are not required to abide by the one-child family plan policy, one example of many privileges minorities enjoy. 5) Two percent of Tibet population are monks, a percentage higher than any other Buddhism regions and countries, such as Thailand's 0.5 percent.

In contrast, the MSM has hidden the Dalai Lama's past and darkness. Books such as "The Shadow of the Dalai Lama" never gained publicity. The MSM was talking about "cultural genocide," but there are still 55 different minority ethnics in China after thousands of years of interactions.

I've been to the Tibetan region in my home province a couple of times for research projects and tourism. The data and my personal experience tell me that the "suppression of religious freedom" in Tibet is nonsense. Religious flags with scriptures, shrines and Lamas are everywhere.

Two percent monks means 2 percent unemployed population, which is supported by government funding and donations from religious followers. Although the Chinese government is led by an Atheist party, when I think about it, I am still amazed by the religious diversity of my hometown compared to Blacksburg.

We have a Buddhism shrine, a Catholic church and a Muslim (Hui) Mosque in town, and a Taoism shrine up in the mountain a couple of miles away.

I have to mention Falun Gong here as my grandma was a follower and a victim. Falun Gong was used as an example of the human rights violation of China after it was banned by the Chinese government in 1999, about seven years after its introduction. The man who started it claimed himself to be a reincarnation of a Buddha greater than Gautama Buddha. Because he stole most of the concepts from Buddhism, he managed to lure many Buddhists to his cult. Not only did this cult promise health to practitioners, it also advocated that disease is a way to pay off the bad karma from their past lives and that taking medicine would jeopardize this process. One will still suffer in his next life if the karma is not paid off.

As a faithful believer, my grandma refused all medicine whenever she was sick. She managed it mostly, but the last four months of her life were painful and miserable. After hiding her condition for an unknown period of time from my family, she was diagnosed with stage III colon cancer. Her faith was so shattered that she wanted to return to the hospital desperately when waiting for biopsy results at home. It is too easy to recruit a westerner who has no experience with this cult to protest for the cause of human rights and religious freedom. To some of them, victims like my family don't exist, or are "made up" as "government propaganda."

However, China is not perfect. Every Chinese is able to compile a list of flaws, so I am not going to try it here. But in the end, we are not so different from you. We all want more freedom and our human rights protected. We all want China to keep making progress as we have experienced in the past 30 years.

Honest communication is priceless. However, the MSM has been building a tower of Babel with bias, untruthful stories and resentment. Should MSM become the communication barrier between the ordinary Chinese and the Americans, we will not just be lost in translation. Yet everyone is so powerless against the MSM.

In case I totally failed to convince you with my poor English, please try to Google "Ron Paul and Censorship" and look at Google trends of some Republican candidates' names. There was actually a column pu blished titled, "Censoring Ron Paul," (CT, May 23, 2007). If the MSM can censor Paul, they can censor anything about China, and that doesn't include always using the "Communist" prefix.


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Posted by: Andy at May 7 The US is not that different than China in dealing with its cults. Remember those FBI storming the cults that asked their followers to kill themselves? Since some of you promote personal choice, why don't you go out and protest the FBI crack down? Flag Abuse
Posted by: hokiness at Apr 28 oppression of their people come on that's all propaganda. Tiananmen square... tank.. student.... don't know what your talking about. Flag Abuse
Posted by: Kyle Minor at Apr 28 This is a fairly interesting discussion, but it leaves out the idea of personal choice. Since most people, I would claim, have never actually experienced (per se) the afterlife, it seems odd to charge that people who make decisions so as to improve whatever position they have in the afterlife have been unnecessarily duped. So what if people opt not to use medicine? Why shouldn't they be afforded that choice themselves? Flag Abuse
Posted by: at Apr 28 Here is official explanation of Falun. The Falun itself is high-energy material that has intelligence. It rotates according to the laws of the universe. The Falun distinguishes Falun Dafa from other schools of cultivation. A Falun is installed in the lower abdomen of every Falun Dafa practitioner. Falun rotates nonstop, automatically assisting practitioners to increase their cultivation energy. Unlike other practices, Falun Dafa allows practitioners to develop cultivation energy regardless of whether they are meditating or not. Falun continues to rotate twenty-four hours a day, constantly developing cultivation energy, even while practitioners are at work, at play and asleep. The Falun is a Miniature of the Universe. Genuine cultivators who read the Falun Dafa books, attend or listen to recordings of Mr. Li Hongzhi's lectures, or learn the practice from another Falun Dafa practitioner, may all obtain Falun. The installation process is automatic and unseen, occurring in other dimensions. Some people can feel the Falun turning when they first obtain it while others cannot; the Falun functions as it should regardless. Flag Abuse
Posted by: at Apr 28 Jana I read the "Zhuan Fa Lun" book way ahead of its ban. And he talked about how medicine is bad and does not cure diseases. Many people in China have relatives who refused to take medicine during that time. Way before its ban, I read articles published in health newspaper arguing that it was not right for FLG to advocate practitioners not to take medicine but practice FLG instead. Those were at least two years before 1999. So apparently it is Jana who is spreading lies here. BTW, I noticed it seems the PDF on their website were missing info I read before. Such as how he tried to penetrate wall and glasses when he was in middle or high school. It is possible he deleted it deliberately after the ban because those were weak points attracting attacks. Flag Abuse
Posted by: Jana at Apr 27 It is ironic because these particular lies, and all others like it, were concocted by the Party post July 20 1999, in the propaganda campaign of Falun Gongs’ vilification. This was a key to success in persecuting the most popular, mainstream practice contemporary China had seen. Claiming that Mr Li Hongzhi said he was the reincarnate of Buddha 2500 years ago is the sort of propaganda that the Communist Party used at the start of the persecution; No where in any teachings of Falun Gong or publicly or privately has Mr Li Hongzhi said this. I know he claims to have had a relative who practised Falun Gong and he states that she was and we are not allowed to go to hospitals but I can assure that this is wrong and has never been stated in any teachings- this is what is said..”If you think you are ill go to the hospital with out delay.” And I seriously doubt that his relative even existed. Anybody who can think for themselves would easily make the conclusion of why do none of these stories ever surface in the 80 countries elsewhere in the world where Falun Gong is practised? Only the communist regime in China and those who work for the Ccp outside of China slanders Falun Gong with such lies. Flag Abuse
Posted by: at Apr 27 John Smith, it is easy for you to say those words about FLG as you are 3-year practitioner. It is entirely a different story if your family members are refusing medicine when they are seriously sick, or hide their illness because they believe this FLG can cure them. Also if you are talking about credibility, the FLG run Epoch Times is the worst credit news media I've seen. Many Chinese people will find their articles are ridiculous. And that's when they are not talking about FLG, and judging from logic and stuff. Flag Abuse
Posted by: at Apr 27 If you read the "bible" of FLG, you know how they explained the bad of medicine. SO MANY Chinese people knew and experienced their elder family members refuse to take medicine. Although they don't say "forbid" (and they can't), most of the followers don't. Maybe they revised this belief after they were banned, and they have to gain some support from the west. I personally have read the book, and I can testify they did say medicine is bad, in terms of karma. Flag Abuse
Posted by: HazySky at Apr 26 John Smith, I gather you practiced Falungong in western countries but not in China. Things were different there. It's not just a spiritual movement. Due to cultural difference, people in the west are keen to religion, spiritual meditation or something. I feel that Chinese people may be more practical. Not every Falungong participant is as highly educated as you are, and most of them are not. Personally, I think each individual participant should be treated better, but the whole thing is not good for many reasons. Flag Abuse
Posted by: at Apr 26 Whether you agree with them or not, I think people should be tolerant and respectful of other peoples' beliefs. Falun Gong has been vilified in CCP media for nearly a decade, and this probably contributes to the lack of understanding. The propaganda against Falun Gong is deeply ingrained in many Chinese. How could anyone know better if all they are hearing are lies generated by state media? Falun Gong does not forbid practitioners from taking medicine anyway. People are free to do what they like. You can practice Falun Gong and take medication. Falun Gong explains the relationship between cultivation practice and illness, and every individual can assess things for themselves. People have a right to self-determination in this regard. It's an absurd excuse for persecuting people, locking them up in jail, torturing them slowly to death, putting them into psychiatric institutions and injecting them with drugs until they are blind or crazy, and cutting them up for their organs to sell to foreigners. All this has been documented by independent parties, and all these things are actually happening to Falun Gong practitioners in China. Falun Gong makes up 66% of torture cases in China according to the UN, and half the labour camp population according to the department of State. These figures are widely quoted. There's no denying the persecution. Take a look at this article by Ethan Gutmann which discusses the Falun Gong issue a bit: http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/014/986himak.asp?pg=2 Flag Abuse
Posted by: John Smith at Apr 26 These beliefs about karma, healing and illness have run throughout the whole of Chinese history. People have a right to believe what they like. Western science cannot explain all the mysteries of the universe, and especially in these fields, there are numerous anomalies that do not fit to the narrow understanding of modern medicine. Ancient Chinese medicine includes all sorts of concepts that are not in modern medicine, should that also be attacked? Flag Abuse
Posted by: John Smith at Apr 26 I would like to respond to some of the comments about Falun Gong on this board. Falun Gong is based on the three principles of truthfulness, compassion, and forbearance. I've practiced it for three years, and have benefited immensely from it. I have not paid a cent. There is no money, membership, or organisation. I have learnt self-discipline, kindness, and a greater honesty with myself and others. Falun Gong is just a set of free teachings, a set of exercises with a spiritual dimension. People should be able to practice it freely and without persecution. Flag Abuse
Posted by: FL at Apr 26 I know very little of economics, so just ramble here. I think the government creates (produces) opportunities of reselling fruits and manages the whole process, so it's inevitable to exist and we should all deal with it in certain way. Kyle, I find your idea of minimal government is somewhat close to one of the greatest thinker Laozi (also the originator of Taoism). He insisted on no presence of the government and everyone lives by themselves. He started all those Yin-Yang, Fengshui, Taiji, etc. etc. etc. I think he, if ever landed foot on American, would love Amish people very much. You can start looking at Wikipedia. :) Flag Abuse
Posted by: Kyle Minor at Apr 25 Government hasn't ACTUALLY produced anything of value, and it doesn't have the capacity to do so on its own like a person has, because the government doesn't actually make anything that has value. It's a complicated economic topic - and whether you approve of how the government handles things or not is contingent upon your own political philosophy. I'm a Conservative (American style), so I prefer the government be involved in my life (and everyone else's life) as little as possible. I just thought I'd clarify what I meant before. Flag Abuse
Posted by: Kyle Minor at Apr 25 I understand where you're coming from, ry, and that's why I find the Chinese government to be an interesting case study in political science. It was founded on Communist principles, has shifted more towards Socialist principles, and continues to migrate more and more (albeit slowly) towards what most Americans might consider the 'right' end of the political spectrum. MY point about production is a capitalistic one - governments don't produce a product, the produce policy. Think about it this way: If I open a fruit store, I need to be able to sell fruit. To do so, I have to be able to do one of two things: produce fruit myself, or else buy it from a fruit producer. The fruit has a value, it's producer sells it to me for that value, and I in turn resell it to someone else for perhaps a different value. In the case of government, however, government COMPELS the fruit to be given to it, and then resells it. Flag Abuse
Posted by: ry at Apr 25 Kyle, to appease your worry about the money collected by Chinese government, I can tell you that a lot money was spent on the infrastructure of both urban and rural area. I don't know why you felt our government did not produce anything, but the standard of living, especially in rural area who comprised above 60% of Chinese 1.5 billion population has improved dramatically. Just one hundred years ago, Chinese civilians still lived under the rule of emperor and the monarchy has been there for thousands of years in Chinese history. So you may not believe, however I can say that for most Chinese people, not matter what ethnic group they belong to, enjoy the most freedom and rights in our entire history. There are still a lot corruptions and flaws in our government, just as any government in the world, you can not deny their reform. Now more and more local government has launched the official website to facilitate processing daily issue; Department of diplomatic, and other major municipal government, has weekly press to answer the question for both domestic and foreign reporters. This is unimaginable before. So we have the confidence to see more reform ahead. But our government is still young, give them more tolerance, and suggestions also. Flag Abuse
Posted by: FL at Apr 25 Sorry, my mistake. The earthquake was 32 years ago in 1976 in Tangshan. See here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tangshan_earthquake Flag Abuse
Posted by: FL at Apr 25 Kyle, thanks for clarifying your points here. It looks like your interests are in political regime. Mine is in culture. Politics or political systems are products of culture. Since communism was adopted by the Chinese (maxims, Lenninism,etc.), it has changed greatly and adapted to Chinese circumstances. The biggest influence, as I see it, is the traditional Chinese culture. Whatever happened in the last 200 hundred years (civil war, colonization, WWII, communism, new China, cultural revolution, Hollywood & KFC, etc.) can hardly change the way the Chinese have lived for 2000 years. For example, the Chinese has lived to believe in unification of a multi-ethic country and handle business as a family. Though there are millions of issues concerning ethic region policy, economy, territory disputes, etc. etc. etc., all these are considered internal issues, so the Chinese do not whine on international newspapers or explain ourselves. It's like you don't need to explain to your neighbor that you build a small pool in your backyard. 20 years ago, the Chinese even refused international donation when an earthquake destroyed the entire city because we were proud to handle it ourselves. Of course now we know better and act more appropriately per the international standards. So again more communication is needed and please keep an open mind. Flag Abuse
Posted by: Kyle Minor at Apr 25 The subtlty in the system is that governments don't produce' anything, and so their 'income' is derived directly from the income of the people. In short, the only way the Chinese government (and most governments around the world) can 'get' money is by taxing the people more and more heavily. Effectively (and I'm not economist), the Chinese government operates on a quasi-capitalist paradigm, so industries are allowed to develop and flourish but all income derived there from is funneled directly back into the government. It's a perplexing sort of system - but part of the fear, as I said before, is that the Chinese government tends not to be explicit about how it operates. Ostensibly, the government simply redistributes the income such that all citizens enjoy a fixed amount of 'equality' - but this raises ethical questions about whether or not it is then 'fair' to the innovators and economic risk-takers to have their rewards sucked away from them and redistributed to other people. That is the primary reason why the West is so passionately skeptical of Communism. Flag Abuse
Posted by: FL at Apr 25 LOL... Theoretically the Chinese government is founded on communism/socialism, which means everything is state owned and all income of the government goes to the people. So all governmental benefits earned through holding Olympics is going back to the people. In comparison, if the Olympics is held in a capitalist country where most of benefits go to private companies or individuals and the government bill taxes. See theoretically which one is more beneficial to the majority of the people? The counter-argument might be that the Chinese government also runs like a capitalist country. So again why are you afraid of and keep attacking the "communism"? What a logic! Flag Abuse
Posted by: Kyle Minor at Apr 25 Maybe I muddled my point. . . .I think the overwhelming (and, in my opinion, justified) fear is that the Chinese government will claim the benefits, and that it will somehow not redistribute them to its people. What is helpful to the Chinese people is helpful to the Chinese government, but much of the world is concerned that what benefits the Chinese government (and they Olympics will certainly do so) may not benefit the Chinese people. Flag Abuse
Posted by: at Apr 25 I wouldn't agree that benefit of hosting olympics only goes to the government. The opening up of China, facilitated by Olympics, more foreign tourists, more access for western media, will benefit everyone in China. Even right now it seems government benefit most, it is inevitable that people will benefit also. I am optimistic that more democracy and freedom will arise from all of these. Not letting China to hold Olympics, will not help Chinese people, and may even slow down the progress. Flag Abuse
Posted by: Kyle Minor at Apr 25 But the nature of your political-economic structure means that any benefit derived by the people necessarily gets 'gobbled up' by the government - sometimes to the benefit of the citizenry and sometimes to its detriment. That, I think, is the main reason why so many Western countries oppose China holding the Olympic games - the benefit, as it will seem, will go directly to the government which is charged, effectively, with human rights abuses and which refuses to release any information (damning or otherwise) on the topics. Flag Abuse
Posted by: Kyle Minor at Apr 25 FL, I'm going to venture a guess that not all Chinese people support the Communist government in place (it's really more of a Socialist government now, but that's beside the point). The problem that Kalla points out, though, is a real one - the nature of China's political structure means that the Chinese government speaks, on the world stage, for all Chinese people -whether they agree or not. This problem is the same for all countries utilizing heavily centralized governmental structures - the US included. The issue here, as I pointed out before, is that the Chinese government tends to be pretty 'hush-hush' about it's more questionable policies (questionable from the standpoint of Western ethics), and since it's official position is that it speaks for all Chinese people (and independent Chinese voices, of which I'm sure there are many, tend to be concealed) - and so the West can't really help but assume that all Chinese people whole-heartedly support the government. It's a problem with the structure of Chinese political society, not with China itself per se. Flag Abuse
Posted by: at Apr 25 Kalla, I found your statement amusing - "let the people believe that West is attacking China". The Chinese government did not "let" the people believe anything. CNN, and other media in the west all did that by themsevles... Flag Abuse
Posted by: at Apr 25 I know they went to Beijing for demenstration for a couple times and was sent back a couple times. I do not know if they are backbones or not. But one was swept out of school and someday she just dispeared. A year later the family was told she was sentenced for 15 years in prison. Flag Abuse
Posted by: FL at Apr 25 Kalla, notice you are mass attacking all Chinese by saying "China should not had the Olympics from the beginning". Please make a difference between China and Chinese government, and the communist party. China deserves a chance to show itself. If you want to criticize Chinese government, you are very welcome and we can do it together with you. If you want to punish the entire China and all 1.3 billion people using political excuses, you do not know anything about Olympic spirits. You can have your own opinions, but do not think we are all fools. And again is there any regime in the world ever live up to the standard of its people or all people in the world? I find your reasons are biased and flawed. Flag Abuse
Posted by: kalla at Apr 25 FL, but China soulod not had the Olympiscs from the beginning. That's just politics. Yos can clearly now see, and that was not hard to figure out before... that the regime use this oppurtunity to strenghten them self - let the people believe that West is attacking China - so they under blow the nationalist feeelings, and is fooled to lost the real focus, on the regime crimes, the bloody regime history. It does not matter which people support that the regime should host the Olympics, or what people don't support it. The regime in no way lived up to the standard to be a host. Thats the truth. Flag Abuse
Posted by: at Apr 25 I know they went to Beijing for demenstration for a couple times and was sent back a couple times. I do not know if they are backbones or not. But one was swept out of school and someday she just dispeared. A year later the family was told she was sentenced for 15 years in prison. Flag Abuse
Posted by: kalla at Apr 25 "A 'dry run' for the Olympics?" http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/15102007/20/china-new-crackdown-dissidents.html Flag Abuse
Posted by: kalla at Apr 25 " I suppose these girls are not just followers right? I am guessing they are "backbone" leaders in regional groups who resisted the ban?" ??? Backbone of what? If you want to fishing, you can do that. If you want to do qigong, maybe in the practice falungong, you can do that - there is no movment, or anything, it's all free, you cultivate bu your self. Whu don't you dom basic homework instead of talks trash? Flag Abuse
Posted by: FL at Apr 25 Kalla, thanks for accumulating such a long list of mass media propaganda. These are exactly the examples of how the western mass media demonise China and Chinese government. And to be honest, we are aware of all these so-called evil propaganda by the evil communist government. And we know more! Do you remember we are bilingual? There are a lot of people in China who are against Olympics because it's a waste of money that can be used to build schools and hospitals in poorer regions like Xinjiang, Guangxi, Xizhang, etc. But many of those people now support Olympics because the biased attack from the western mass media made them to realize it is the perfect opportunity to showcase the new China. So you wake up. We have moved on, so should you. Flag Abuse
Posted by: at Apr 25 I suppose these girls are not just followers right? I am guessing they are "backbone" leaders in regional groups who resisted the ban? Flag Abuse
Posted by: at Apr 25 My friend a beautiful and smart girl is still in prison (maybe another 10 years) for not giving up practicing. Another girl was put in Falungong. Another girl was there for a year. The lives of two promising college girls are ruined. Both Falungong and the government are responsible for this. Flag Abuse
Posted by: kalla at Apr 25 The Nazi regime banned ONE group before the held the Olympics. The Chinese illegal maffia regime banned 43 goups...: "Blacklist". Human Rights in China http://hrichina.org/public/PDFs/CRF.3.2007/CRF-2007-3_Blacklist.pdf Flag Abuse
Posted by: kalla at Apr 25 Chinese Regime Fundamentally Opposed to Rule of Law, Says Canadian Lawyer http://en.epochtimes.com/news/7-10-9/60543.html Flag Abuse
Posted by: kalla at Apr 25 Hartleys article: The terrible secrets of Beijing’s ‘black jails’ http://www.spectator.co.uk/the-magazine/features/247856/the-terrible-secrets-of-beijings-black-jails.thtml Flag Abuse
Posted by: kalla at Apr 25 Video: China's Olympic Lie http://www.veoh.com/videos/v1357069DKZqmaty Flag Abuse
Posted by: kalla at Apr 25 China has to shape up before they can host Olympic Games http://www.thegatewayonline.ca/china-has-to-shape-up-before-they-can-host-olympic-games-20071119-1416.html Flag Abuse
Posted by: kalla at Apr 25 Will China ‘lose’ the 2008 Olympics? http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2007%5C11%5C22%5Cstory_22-11-2007_pg3_4 Flag Abuse
Posted by: kalla at Apr 25 Falun Gong "Disappearing by Thousands" http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_georgian_080409_falun_gong___22disappe.htm Flag Abuse
Posted by: kalla at Apr 25 Video: Tibet, Cry Of The Snow Lion http://www.veoh.com/videos/v985699cXS8bgmb?searchId=7549129406777889889&rank=10 Flag Abuse
Posted by: kalla at Apr 25 Hide the truth http://tibettoons.wordpress.com/2008/03/21/140/ Flag Abuse
Posted by: kalla at Apr 25 The Cry of Tibet http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120666008071070097.html?mod=googlenews_wsj Flag Abuse
Posted by: kalla at Apr 25 Swifter, higher, stronger… democratic? http://www.theindependent.ca/article.asp?id=1146 Flag Abuse
Posted by: kalla at Apr 25 Propaganda, Deception, and the 'Riots' in Lhasa http://www.phayul.com/news/article.aspx?id=20060&t=1&c=4 Flag Abuse
Posted by: kalla at Apr 25 Video with Yu Zhou (playing drums)- killed by the illegal commuist regim http://www.youmaker.com/video/sv?id=571f7e4d385e4dfd86cb89fa573c6a2d001 Flag Abuse
Posted by: HazySky at Apr 25 To kalla, we don't need the smartass like you to wash our brains. Flag Abuse
Posted by: kalla at Apr 25 May the torch be harassed More reading, for getting the picture right http://www.torontosun.com/News/World/2008/04/10/pf-5243321.html Flag Abuse
Posted by: kalla at Apr 25 You chinese is either fools or barinwashed, maybe both. Wake up. Further reading: Crime is not politics http://www.chicoer.com/opinion/ci_8871774 Flag Abuse
Posted by: FL at Apr 25 Falun Gong has indeed caused a lot of tragedies in China. One of my former neighbors practiced it and she even gave the Book to my parents to study. My parents immediately saw ridiculous flaws in it and ignored it. However, Falung Gong already messed up the neighbor's mind and she later became psychopathic. Her husband had to retire early to take care of her everyday at home. Something like this hurts the entire family forever. I cannot start imagining what the family's been through all these years. When Falun Gong just started in China, many universities even allowed it hosted classes as elective health promotion or culture courses. But then gradually many people recognized its flaws and abandoned it. Those Falun Gong supporters, have you ever read its Book or simply support anything that is labeled as "religion" by the media? Flag Abuse
Posted by: A-L at Apr 25 after reading Mark Salzman's books "Iron and Silk" and "The Laughing Sutra," I really feel like my understanding of Chinese culture has grown. So when the riots in Tibet and all over the world started happening, I felt it was very unfair and biased against China. I am glad that there are Chinese people standing up and doing their best to explain their country to others. Thank you! Now all I need is to visit China:) Flag Abuse
Posted by: HazySky at Apr 25 I have a friend back in college who is a hardcore Falungong follower and refused to abandon it. The government wants to reform them but nobody needs to worry about security. I think for each individual, they're not treated very well. But we have to see clearly that it's not a religious issue. It concerns much about politics. Falungong was cracked down because those people tried to challenge the central government. Here in US, those polygamists also think they're following their religion, but it's not allowed because some activates violate the law. Flag Abuse
Posted by: MD at Apr 25 With regards to Falungong, my personal impression is that the Chinese goveronment is not too harsh on the followers. I do understand in the a huge country like China, how the policy made by goveronment is practiced at different levels varies from region to region. I am from Beijing. My high school physics teacher is a regional leader of Falungong. She was arrested when attacking the goveronment, days later she was set free; then she went back to protest, got arrested, and days later she was free; and then she went back to protest again... Last time I heard about her, she was doing fine. So personally I think the followers are safe as long as they are not attacking the goveronment, at least in Beijing it is the case. Flag Abuse
Posted by: MD at Apr 25 Hi Kyle, I totally agree that dealing with criticism is difficult, as an individual human or as a goveronment. I do hope the relationship between China and the world improves through the Olympics. I can assure you that a trip to China will be very safe. I personally know more than a dozen Americans who enjoyed their trips to China. Flag Abuse
Posted by: at Apr 25 I also hate Falungong, because it has misled so many people. I know a lot are still in prison for not giving up practing it...These people are innocent and should be released. I hope our government considers them not as enemies but as victims. That's all. Flag Abuse
Posted by: Kyle Minor at Apr 25 Haha thanks for the offer, Tony, but I'm not quite sold on an observational visit to China quite yet. While the cultural revolution happening now may well not be anywhere near as violent and total as the revolution which put the Communist party in power 50+ years ago, what we are seeing now in China is its ability to adapt to a lot of different social and political pressures. Some of the changes are being handled quite gracefully - and some, especially in terms of criticism by foreign governments, is being handled not-so-gracefully. The Olympic games are proving to be an interesting test of China's political mettle - PRC has the ability to either gain a lot of respect for its progress in the world, or otherwise has the ability to lose a lot of respect should its perceived abuses turn out to be truth. It's a big gamble for China's government, these Olympic games - and biased media or not, I think that China ultimately benefits from any sort of reporting in the West simply because of what I said in my previous post (an emerging open-door policy). Flag Abuse
Posted by: Tony Jia at Apr 25 Hi, Kyle. Thanks for your objective comment on China and rent Tibet issue. Chinese government do need change,'Change' as Barack Obama said, for better politics and economics, and human rights; while, China, an old country with new life in the past 30 years, do need understanding from all around the world. We welcome you to China, if by any chance for conference, where your travel expanse would be covered :-), to see and feel the true china vividly, to talk with common people in china, then you can have better understanding of the old country and chines people. and don't forget to go to Tibet. We have railway now from Beijing to Tibet, which is less expansive and safer than airway. Tibet is really beautiful. Talk to Tibetan original people about the changes in the past 50 year.I think you will be better idea who is wrong: Dalai or common Chinese people. Flag Abuse
Posted by: Kyle Minor at Apr 24 This is about the most cogent and thoughtful column I've seen on the topic in any source in a while. I think a lot of the issues in the American media on the subject stem from the simple fact that China has not, until recently, been entirely forthcoming with information about the inner workings of their politics and culture over the last half century. What the media in America sees is only what China lets out, and the Chinese government had historically (as I understand it) been a bit dismissive of the 'Tibetan problem,' and so naturally the media here picked up the point as an obvious case of oppression. In the end, of course (as you note), China's hands aren't entirely clean in the matter - but as China continues to open its doors more widely, both economically and politically, to the rest of the world, it will be interesting to see how their policies towards the more politically dicey situations in their country (mainly Tibet and Taiwan) evolve. Flag Abuse
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