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I agree, the government greatly oversteps its bounds with regard to college campuses. Not only do they attempt to rob you of your second amendment rights but now they're going to tell adults that they can't smoke outside. This is egregious and we should all stand up for the rights of the smokers. We can debate the merits of inside smoking but outside bans are just ridiculous.

As a non-smoker I totally defend the right of smokers to do so outside. Banning smoking indoors was understandable and defensible. But outside? Please. Draw the line somewhere. I predicted 20 years ago that the war on cigarettes would expand to food and it has. A day will come when you can no longer consume a hamburger on a campus without breaking a law in the name of 'public health'. Defend smokers rights! Yours are next.

I don't get why you keep bringing up plane and restaurant bans as if they're attacks on freedom. They clearly are not, they're simple health measures to keep non-smokers like you and I from getting cancer, or simply smokey smelling because of someone else's life choice. Furthermore, walking around campus, you don't see many smokers, because this is a good school, with smart people and smart people don't smoke (these days). So think of other schools where perhaps smokers are in the majority. I'm sure campuses like that are full of cigarette smoke at all times.making for an unpleasant and unhealthy environment for everyone. Maybe you should think outside of your own personal bubble before you criticize a national policy.

I was a grad student at Tech when smoking was still allowed outdoors if you were at least 25 ft from a building entrance. My office was near an entrance, though, and every time someone was smoking outside we would all be subjected to the smell, especially if the windows were open. People didn't obey the 25+ ft rule, and I shouldn't have had to suffer because of someone else's choices.

I agree that they should have to be a certain distance from the door. I am okay with peoples choice to smoke but I shouldn't have to inhale it.

I have a right to walk into a public building without passing through a toxic cloud.

You can drag on smokes while you play with your gun on your porch, but keep the vile stench of bad logic out of my lungs.

Well actually you don't have that right, the gov't has been spraying toxic gas on people for years. Beyond that there's the air pollution from automobiles and industry that we just seem to ignore as well. Here's a news flash for you, you will die someday regardless if you smell a cigarette on your walks.

Enforcing the 25ft rule would been fine.

I have an incredibly hard time believing that anybody could get cancer from smoke even right next to you. I'm sure those studies were BS. The chemicals in the smoke are concentrated at the point of they leave the cigarette and by physics that gas diffuses to so few parts per million even within a foot away. So somebody breathing it a foot away isn't really going to inhale anything significant enough to damage to your body. If the smoker exhales it, then they're lungs already filtered an overwhelming majority of toxins. It's the same logic that you can't get high from second hand smoke that demonstrates that you can't get cancer from second hand smoke. You smell it, but just because you smell it doesn't mean you're actually inhaling anything that could cause damage to your body. If you're outside ... live and let live.

The analogy to not getting high is false.

You don't get high from second hand weed smoke because all of the psychoactive chemicals (or at least the VAST majority, like 99% of them) have been absorbed by your lungs. On the other hand, cigarette smoke is essentially ALL toxic chemicals. If they were all absorbed by the smoker's lungs, then no smoke would even come out of their mouth...

Oh and also there's this study that was conducted:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390444900304577581663323288258.html

So you're wrong on all counts buddy.

and and you lost the privilege of saying logic

Just the other day I was walking behind a dude smoking. With the way the wind was blowing, a toxic cloud of cancer came rushing into my face. I agree that people are entitled to their freedoms, as so long as it doesn't negatively harm anyone else.

Its not an injustice that smokers can't smoke anywhere they want, its a protective measure to those who don't wish to suffer the consequences of second-hand smoke.

When you said, "the gov't has been spraying toxic gas on people for years", you lost all credibility.

You should be allowed to smoke outside if I can whizz on anyone passing by. They are both equally relieving. My whizz is sterile and probably wouldn't enter your body. You're smoke infiltrates my eyes and lungs and causes cancer. Sounds like you get the better of the deal, so do we have a deal?

Think I'm lying, years of DDT sprays and this little gem.

http://www.businessinsider.com/army-sprayed-st-louis-with-toxic-dust-2012-10

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Cigarette smoking is a dirty, disgusting, smelly habit and should not be allowed on campus. It creates a mess for workers to clean up and is a fire hazard not to mention a health hazard. Smokers are not compliant about smoking outdoors especially at night or in bad weather because they are addicted.

you are awesome

It's funny to think a ban like this would actually be effective. Are you going to have a cop behind every tree, every sidewalk, at the Duck Pond to fine smokers?

I think it will make the smokers more surly and LESS likely to care about the distance from the building because-hey, we might get in trouble anyway, why freeze my butt off while doing it.

My high school banned smoking anywhere on the campus, and we had plenty of smokers in the bathrooms. It smelled terrible and of course HS students are watched much closer than college kids. If they had been able to smoke in the courtyard (assuming they're 18 of course) maybe I could've used the facilities in peace.

My point is, there's no point arguing about this rule because it won't work to begin with!

As far as I can tell, smoking is still allowed on campus, per Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University Policy and Procedures No. 1010 (http://www.policies.vt.edu/1010.pdf).

Not sure why the columnist seems to make it sound otherwise.

What's egregious is your tone young man/lady!

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I support any form of deterrence to stop and prevent people from smoking due to the cost of health insurance. Many studies have shown that people who smoke cigarettes are much more likely to develop health problems such as cancer. Treatment for these illnesses are typically very expensive, which in turn raises everybody's health insurance premiums, including healthy non-smokers. Unless there was some extra insurance cost charged to smokers so that these costs are not passed on to people who choose not to smoke, then initiatives like this do not bother me.

Hey I'm for both, we should let people make bad decisions but they should have to pay more as a result of them increasing their cancer risk. While we're at it, the obese should pay more too, in addition to a whole host of people making other bad choices too numerous to detail here. Insurance should be able to categorize and incentivize good health financially.

Yes, smokers pay a higher premium. I guess you haven't had to shop for your own insurance lately, it's on every pre-screening questionaire.

Yes, smokers pay a higher premium. I guess you haven't had to shop for your own insurance lately, it's on every pre-screening questionaire.

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