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Half of the games this year the Defense allowed 27 points or more.

Duke blanked us for 20 before the echoes of Enter Sandman faded away.

The other 3 games were Austin Peay, Bowling Green, and a 3-4 GT team.

You must dig deeper than blaming Coach Stinespring if you want to be a credible sports journalist.

You should try watching the games before commenting. The defense has had a few missteps this year, but the defensive schemes have not been faulty in most situations.

You say Duke scored 20 and make it sound like the defense was completely responsible. Certainly they had no short fields or points scored by their defense...

Good sports journalism calls out the biggest problem and says it must be fixed. The biggest problem for many years has been the coordination of the offense.

The biggest reason to call out the offense, is that the defense has been making changes and improvements. The offense has not progressed from day 1 because they are still uncoordinated.

The most obvious sign the Stinespring is inept is that nobody has ever wanted to hire him away. Nobody wants to take on a coach that has no offensive identity and no understanding of his players' abilities.

So, since you want to gloss over Stinespring's history of failure, what changes do you think should be made?

The best thing a defense can have is an offense that keeps them off the field.

The BIGGEST problem VA Tech fans are having to deal with is that the TEAM was so overrated before the season even began that expectations were NEVER ACHIEVABLE! This is only Thomas 2nd yr. at QB! PERIOD! The biggest problem on "D" are the DB's. They have been simply AWFUL! The team lacks overall talent, and you can begin at RB/DB and go from there. If the Hokies finish .500 it will be a good yr. Beamer will need to reevaluate his staff, but it will be difficult dumping Fosterball because of his buy out clause. Good talent can make an average coach look great! It's the great coaches that can make average talent look good.

I agree with Adam on this one. The defense has had some shortcomings this season. With as many injuries and froshman, you still have to give them credit for improving through the season, something clearly not seen from the offense.

I find it incredibly difficult to believe any honest fan would come out in the defense of Stinespring/offensive coaching staff. Have you been watching Hokie football for the past 6-8 years? How many offers is Stinespring turning down from other schools? As many as Foster? Could you with a straight face write a post in the defense of Stinespring and his offensive coaching intelligence?

Then again, "Alex, Alex, Alex" could all be aliases for "Beamer, Stinespring and O'Cain."

Let's get real for a moment:
1. We are long overdue for a offensive coaching staff change.
2. The offense line is inexperienced but will get valuable experience this year and should shine next year. Of course Thomas's throwing is inconsistent; he needs better pass protection and an effective running game.
3. Are DB's not top quality. We need to recruit away talented DBs to step in with experience next year.
4. Maybe, just maybe, it might just be that Frank Beamer should think about retirement. Or will he stick around long enough for Tech's program to become like Penn State or Notre Dame (this yr not included).

Stinespring is without a doubt this teams biggest issue. If I see another screen pass or end around, I am going to puke.

I would go in to further details about how BS is VT's biggest problem, but the issue is not even worth the effort of me moving my fingers. This has been discussed too many times.

Someone needs to organize a rally outside the practice facility calling for Stiney, O'Cain, and Newsome to be fired. I think Beamer is delusional about how displeased the fan base is about our Offense

Adam, the previous poster listed facts. He seems fairly knowledgeable.

To suggest he hasn't watched the games is a silly ad hominen attack.

"The biggest problem for many years", "Nobody wants to", and "Stinesrping's history of failure", are glossy generalizations.

His record as Offensive Coordinator is 106-37. That is a 74% winning percentage, which is actually the opposite of failure.

You have proven that you don't understand journalism, mathematics, or logic. NRV Community College is still accepting applications.

After the first drive, which ended with a 62-yard pass, the defense kept Duke out of the end zone all game. The second drive saw a few penalties and ultimately Duke settled for a field goal. On the next drive, we gave up a big pass and then held in the red zone.

After those drives, Duke had only 1 play over 20 yards for the rest of the game. That is the type of improvement and adjustment we only wish we could see from the offense.

It seems as though when we head to the locker room in a close game against a good team, their defense more often figures out how to lock down our offense and we have no answer. All three Clemson games and Stanford come to mind. JMU also did this, but I'll call that a fluke.

Overall, the problem is that our offense is not adaptable. If it works against some defenses that are bad and/or stubborn, that doesn't make it good. Certain teams just match up well against us, and in the college game it's tough to score and defend against such a wide variety of talent levels and game plans, but when we come up against these teams, we should have some answer other than checking out at halftime.

Well said Adam...

Beamer is not delusional and he knows the offensive coaching staff is a problem. That is why after every game in his press conference he immediately jumps to the defense of the play calling and O'Cain and Stinespring.

He has been allowed to keep his job and his coaches because every year the stadium is packed, our games are sold out, loyal Hokies continue to travel to away games (myself included) and renew their season tickets. Frank Beamer still brings in a lot of cash for the school, the town of Blacksburg, and the Athletic Department.

Unfortunately, I think Hokie Football is going to way of Notre Dame, FSU, and Penn State. A coach past his prime that is holding off on retirement waiting for that NC trophy. Frank Beamer seems to be the only one who doesn't know we will never get there with the current coaches.

"His record as Offensive Coordinator is 106-37. That is a 74% winning percentage, which is actually the opposite of failure."

Spoken like someone who doesn't watch the games and only thinks in terms of fantasy football.

For years, the defense has bailed out the offense's poor showings. The D actually played very well vs Clemson. 7 of Duke's 21 points came on a pick-6. The defense is having a down year, but the key word there is "year". The offense has been down for almost a decade now, simply relying on the other parts of the team, and a scrambling QB to disguise its weaknesses.

Before you talk about other people not understanding logic, math, or journalism, you should try removing your head from Beamer's ass.

Ok, for Adam. Yes, indeed, that is the *team's* record with Stinespring as OC. The question should be "what could it have been with someone else?" In baseball, stats like Wins Above Replacement are touted because they actually get at the heart of the matter: how much does someone contribute to a team's record relative to an average replacement. Stinespring would likely have a negative WAR if such a metric existed for football coaches.

Hey Anon II, his point was correct: a winning record over 10 years is not "failure". You cannot make-up your own definitions.

And the other poster was right about this season: the defense allowed Duke to score 3 times in the first quarter.

Hey "Obvious Guy Says", you're a moron. Just like the other guy trying to blindly spew numbers to back up his ignorance.

Steinspring should go. The play calling is infuriating.

Hey Obvious Guy Says, success is relative, so yes, you absolutely can measure it in different ways.

The team as a whole does boast an impressive record over the past decade plus. However, with the players we've had, it could/should have been better with a different approach on offense. I'm not denying that the coaches recruit these players in the first place, but if they can't implement a scheme that exploits the talent, it goes to waste.

I have been watching Tech football since 1964, and all I ever hope for was for the team to make the Top Ten in the AP poll at least once (there was no Top 25 at that time). I've been a season ticket holder for a long, long time sitting through the losing seasons and now this wonderful run of winning seasons. Our teams have always been overachievers. We rarely get 5-star players and only a small number of 4-star players, yet our coaches have been able to transform walk on players to successful pro players.

I agree we do have some coaching issues because they don't know how to utiilize the talent they have. Eddie Royal was a prime example. Bud Foster has to really feel frustrated knowing his defense has been successful for a long time while the offense has never come close to matching the defense performance-wise.

I'm concerned however that we might have a morale issue - watch the Logan Thomas interview after the Pitt loss. He didn't sound like a leader to me, and I wonder if we have an offensive team and a defensive team, but not a collective "team!"

I'm afraid thought, that if Frank retires, or is forced to leave, that Weaver will bring in some assistant coach from a lower ranking conference instead of spending the money to bring in a first class FBS head coach.

My two cents all!

Yes, and many of the new wave of fans can totally understand, if not relate, to the lean years before the rise to national prominence. However, it's like the Seinfeld "first class" episode. Once you've experienced something great, it's tough to stomach moving back to ordinary. I am convinced that there are OCs that would be willing to come to VT and would do a better job, but I am not convinced that Beamer and/or Weaver can sell a quality OC candidate on coming to Blacksburg. The infrastructure (facilities, recruiting pool, salary, etc.) is in place to make VT an attractive place for high-level talent. If only I had faith that our athletic executives could actually seal the deal.

I think I would like at the body of work that Bud Foster has delivered over the last century or so versus the body of work Stinestring has delivered...not even a comparison..Bud deserves a bad year..also the the defensive stays on the field is put in terrrible situations every year esp. this year due to a inept offense scheme with talent...Stiney must GO!

1-19 vs the top 5, enough said. You can't beat the big boys, you're behind the curve. Those of you that are happy with 10 wins vs. St. Mary's School for the Poor and meaningless bowl wins/losses, shame on you.

1-19 vs the top 5, enough said. Those of you that are happy with 10 meaningless wins vs. St. Mary's School for the Poor should be ashamed. Have fun at the Caruqest Bowl IF they find 6 wins this year

When we run a pitchout type play, we usually get some yardage, even though we always run to the short side of the field. I have season tickets since 1970, and have watched hundreds of 2 yard passes, and we rarely gain much yardage. It is a game of 10 yards, and the offensive play caller needs to make sure the pass goes close to 10 yards,like the winning offenses do.
While we are into it, beating teams like the ones we have beaten this year sure makes it hard to get friends to come to the games with you!

Stiney has a certain amount of job security- he is "family"!

This is not worth my time reading. Too much opinion, too little substance and fact. It's written like an 18-year old armchair coordinator. Passionate but flawed, and a little bit careless. Keep working at it Alex, but you need to work on honing and refining your craft.

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