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Yes Richard McCoy VT has plenty of parking /s

If you wanted to make money off parking permits you should not have gotten rid of the 2 year permits.


You know that commuter lots are going way.

That is why the current parking garage is being built because in ten years or so some more buildings will be built.

A parking garage is going in behind the power plant, next to where Sycamore Deli used to be. Did I mention it is private and will be owned by Bob Pack.

You notice how Squires was mentioned

A large amount of Faculty/Staff space was lost since building the new arts building on what had been an F/S parking lot.

Turner Street Development
www. vtf.vt .edu/content/real-estate/real-estate-portfolio/turner-street-project

Signature Engeering Building
www .pdc.facilities.vt .edu/mediawiki/images/b/ba/Site_Plan.jpg

If you can use bus transit and stop feeding the machine that is parking services.

Having a permit and car on campus just doesn't work.

Using a parking garage with no space and a scratched up; dented car is not worth it. Hitting somebody too busy texting (to lookout) is not worth it.

Hey at least this isn't a tuition and fees increase.

Exhibit A

www. governance.vt. edu/comcsa/minutes-12-2-10.pdf


Steve Mouras, Director of Transportation and Campus Services, Virginia Tech Parking –
Mr. Mouras introduced Mr. Bo Frazier, Assistant Manager, and led a discussion regarding
VT Parking Services.
A handout was distributed listing peer universities and their parking permit rates for
2010‐11 to show how we measure up to our peers in the area of cost of parking.
• Some schools use a tiered system based on class or depending on how many
parking lots you wish to park in.
• VT is noticeably on the low side in comparison with most schools. Low priced
schools do not have parking garages.
• The garage that was most recently built here at Virginia Tech cost annually $1.7
million (the mortgage payment). This does not include maintenance.
• VT made a conscious decision many years ago to take advantage of open property
adjacent to campus. We are fortunate not to be very confined as far as land space
goes. In order to keep prices low, we waited as long as possible to build the
garage.
• In response to a question, Mr. Mouras noted that there is 10% interval between
cost of faculty/staff and students. As the cost of parking goes up, the number of
permits goes down. The overall cost is based upon total expenses.

• SOV (Single Operated Vehicle) is the least efficient means of transporting people.
BB & W permits are available for $15 (per semester) for faculty, staff, and
students who prefer to bus, bike, or walk to campus.
• 75% of parking tickets are from students, but parking tickets have declined due to
fewer cars on campus and managing behavior. Parking tickets are not about
generating revenue, but about curbing behavior
• Faculty and staff have additional capacity in some of the lots because they are
contractually obligated to be at work at a certain time and tardiness could result in
termination of employment. For commuter/graduate students, on a regular day
not all of the spaces fill up. (200 empty commuter/grad spaces any time of the
day are located within 15 minutes adjacent to the academic buildings). It was
noted that many graduate students have a similar contractual agreement that
could result in termination. Mr. Mouras suggested that if there is a need for
enhanced GA/TA parking, the Graduate School needs to look into this noting a
demonstrated need that these students should have the same privileges as faculty
and staff.
Also a part of the handout distributed was information on the 2010‐11 Budget for
Parking Services (projected numbers developed at the start of the year).
• Primary revenue sources are parking permits and parking fines.
• There are three major types of expenses: Variable, irreducible, and
maintenance.

• Total projected revenue and expenses for 2010‐11:
Total Revenue $4,375,000
(permits, fines)
Variable Expenses $1,765,000
(personnel costs, operating expenses)
Irreducible Expenses $1,634,000
(utilities, administrative charges, debt service)
Maintenance Reserve Projects $349,000
Total Base Expenses $3,748,000
• The 2nd garage will be built on Turner St. where Sycamore Deli was located,
Which will result in an increase in permit costs
• Parking permits do not fall under the University Governance system. The
BOV approves or disapproves increases.
• Possibility of faculty/staff permits being charged proportionally based on
their salary is a viable option and is a policy call that the University will
make.
• Athletics is responsible for trash left in parking lots after game day.
Otherwise, on a day‐to‐day basing, Parking Services is responsible.
• Last year we had 18,000 permitted vehicles. This number has declined
three years in a row.
• Parking is managed from 7:00 a.m. in the morning until 5:00 p.m.
However, Monday thru Friday, the Drillfield area is reserved for faculty,
staff, and graduate students until 8:00 p.m.
• Virginia Tech is the only University among our peer institutions that does
not charge visitors for parking. In maintaining an open and welcoming
environment based on the isolation of our campus it is much friendlier not
to charge visitors.

• In response to a concern that visitors should have to pay, Dr. Spencer
noted that if the Commission feels that there should be a charge, not
everything that goes through the Commission has to go through the
governance system. The Commission could choose to pass a
resolution/recommendation to the University administration on any issue,
including parking.
• There is a plan in place for a remote lot for individuals to be bused onto
campus that would be located adjacent to a transit route (2015). Part of
this system will be funded by the system currently in place.
• Fall 2011 budget includes an item to make the cost for resident students
higher because their cars are parked for longer periods of time.
• Dr. Shushok noted that a parking charge for visitors sends an unwelcoming
message to visitors which centers around the perception of Virginia Tech
and how we treat visitors.
• In regards to prorating parking fees for employees based on salary, Mr.
Mouras noted that this idea is sometimes more intrusive into employees
and what their salaries are at a wider knowledge base. Salary is an
extremely sensitive issue and there is reluctance of some to have that
information out there. It was noted however, that salary information is
already available to the public.

Dr. Shushok raised a concern about service vehicles driving on sidewalks.
He has encouraged his dining and housing staff not to drive on sidewalks if
at all possible. Mr. Mouras responded that in the planning, design and
layout of the campus, one decision was to create the quadrangle type
configuration where buildings would be clustered over an open courtyard
and to situate them with green space around them, without service access
roads to get back to those areas. This has resulted in major landlocked
areas where service vehicles have no other ways to get access. A request
has been made to have this type of access minimized.
• In response to a question about technology to monitor open spaces in
parking lots, Mr. Mouras responded that this type of technology is very
expensive and would result in higher permit costs.
• Areas where Parking Services does offer assistance is with car jumps,
unlocking vehicles, and other things along those lines. They also do work
setting up and taking down lots for special events.
• Mr. Hart reported that on Tuesday night they had a good Transportation
Forum. There were good questions raised and there was much concern
about the parking at McComas because of Schiffert Health Center and the
McComas expansion. They also talked to Rebecca Martin with the
Blacksburg Transit about the BT/VT Relationship in regards to the VT
Tracker system and ways to make improvements. There will be a followup
focus group meeting in February.

actually bob pack doesn't own any of that, he sold it to the virginia tech foundation, which actually also owns the retail area where buffalo wild wings is located. he's just doing the building and i think will get money from the retail locations for several years.

Tech is being quite proactive in re-creating the methods we use to park locally. Our massive surface lots consume enormous acreage of land that does not need to be used for parking - and the massive storm water runoff generated by those surface lots is really bad for the Stroubles Creek, Toms Creek and ultimately New River watershed. Multi-story parking alleviates a great precentage of that stormwater runoff by reducing the surface area of pavement, allows for more vehicle to be parked with shorter distances required for those who are parking. In the case of Turner Place, incorporating VT Office Space and retail is an added benefit as we re-think how we develop our limited land resources. They should build across from Squire Now - a street level retail element, a 2nd and 3r floor street facing VT office center and if they got really creative two or three level above that for either Graduate, Graduate Married, or International Visiting Professors and Staff. Parking would exist on the south and east sides on 4 or 5 levels with the College Avenue, Squires facade being five or six stories of livable/workable space. And it continues to place more people downtown to help the community grow.

Thank you for clarifying Mr. Pack's position

Anyway I found what i was looking for

*See Residential Parking 300 spots lost

www .governance.vt .edu/comcsa/minutes_11-15-12.pdf

Parking/Transportation – Lisa Wilkes
Dr. Wilkes shared the following:
• She welcomed feedback post presentation
• Parking and Transportation Committee --This committee is
part of the University governance system and includes
representation from throughout the university, including a
graduate and undergraduate representative.
• Office of University Planning deals with transportation and
planning and is working on an initiative over the next two
years which is a campus transportation master plan.
• They are looking for student representatives to participate
in master plan process.
• The office is looking looking at a bike master plan to look
at bike and pedestrian safety program.
• Every other year, parking services does a survey to capture
who is using their services and other methods of
transportation; This will be coming out in the spring.
• Squires parking spaces are now reopened.
• Residential Student Parking – 300 spaces will be lost in the cage, but 900 spaces have been added on chicken hill.
• Service vehicles cannot be ticketed because Virginia Tech
cannot collect revenue from a state agency. There are
well over 300 service vehicles on this campus every day,
thus they end up parking illegally in many places.
• The bike master plan that is being developed will deal with
bike lanes.

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